[elBIT]

Although the up bandwidth indicator tops at the "upload limit" set in "preferences", when summing the speeds of all the individual uploads it pretty much constantly surpasess the "upload limit". I know it shouldn't necesarily match since they're probably not updated at the same time, but in general the behaviour should at least average the "upload limit". Plus it's been since I upgraded to version 0.46c I've noticed a clear missbehaviour compared to previous versions. This leads to think that either the speeds of individual uploads or of the up bandwidth are off, or that the real upload bandwidth used is not respecting the "upload limit".

I have "try to upload full chunks" disabled.

PD: I take the aopporunity here to say that the Search function of this forum is a royal pain in the bottom, limiting searches to 1 every 90 secs or so (seems longer). C'mon u can do better than that to prevent flooding, maybe just start limiting ips that have exceeded a certain number of searches in the last period of time.

This post has been edited by elBIT: 06 August 2005 - 08:42 AM

[PacoBell]

elBIT, on Aug 6 2005, 12:40 AM, said:

PD: I take the aopporunity here to say that the Search function of this forum is a royal pain in the bottom, limiting searches to 1 every 90 secs or so (seems longer).

Actually, it's every 60 seconds. I think it's a perfectly reasonable threshold.

[elBIT]

thought i'd seen 90, maybe it varies depending on load (my point still holds though)

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I think it's a perfectly reasonable threshold.

people rarely find what they're looking for (or make certain that what their looking for is not posted) in the first search. In fact, they usually need to try many possible search criterias, and wating a min or so in between does not make a good Search funtion (it doesn't help the user).

anyway back to the main topic, I though I'd add a screenshot to show what I'm talking about.......now I realise I can't since the forum will only let me put a URL to the image, so another one for the forum. (say what u want, it still is pretty restrictive IMO)

This post has been edited by elBIT: 06 August 2005 - 09:29 AM

[elBIT]

I have now tested the client for some souple of hours with "try to upload full chunks" enabled and the situation is the same. Cheking the statistics shows the up bandwidth ok (within limit).
Checking the connection status for bytes sent I average 22KB/s and my "upload limit" is set to 18KB/s. I think this is probably OK considering ECC bytes, overhead and others.
So I conclude that probably the up speeds shown for each induvidual upload are off. (this is of course the least serious scenario but still a bug I guess)

[Esel4711]

USS is _ENABLED_ by default since v0.46c, you may check this

[niclights]

I don't really understand what this was all about

But I will add that I am monitoring my actual UL at 18-20kB/s with a limit of 16kB/s on a 200kbps connection using 60-80 connections (no downloads or other known activity). This is exactly what I would expect to see with Kad connected. If I disconnected Kad I would expect a reduction of approx 1kB/s from the overheads.

You can link URL's to images within the IMG tags. The only restriction is there is no ability to upload images directly to the forum, for obvious reasons. I too have never really had any problems with the flood controls and you will find that less than 60secs is often accepted I'm sure those of us who have experienced flooding and the subsequent complete loss of forum that resulted will feel this is perfectly reasonable! The only problematic restriction IMO is the minimum of four characters, but this can be overcome by using Google

[sergivs]

elBIT, on Aug 6 2005, 01:40 AM, said:

Although the up bandwidth indicator tops at the "upload limit" set in "preferences", when summing the speeds of all the individual uploads it pretty much constantly surpasess the "upload limit".  I know it shouldn't necesarily match since they're probably not updated at the same time, but in general the behaviour should at least average the "upload limit".  Plus it's been since I upgraded to version 0.46c I've noticed a clear missbehaviour compared to previous versions.  This leads to think that either the speeds of individual uploads or of the up bandwidth are off, or that the real upload bandwidth used is not respecting the "upload limit".

I have the same problem in this version. A couple more things: while you have the options screen up, you can change the upload speed limit and hit the Apply button and the upload limit will be enforced; but as soon as you hit OK and the screen goes away, the limit will be ignored. Somebody mentioned on this forum that 0.46c is much slower, and I think these problems may be related. I noticed that when a few high-speed uploads are going on, the computer on which I run eMule becomes extremely slow, probably because there are many read requests.

Until this bug is fixed, I will probably try to use some older version or share fewer files.

[sergivs]

One more thing: the upload and download limit sliders in the options screen seem to be connected in some way, as if to make the user "play fair". It isn't very clear, though...

[PacoBell]

sergivs, on Sep 6 2005, 06:08 PM, said:

One more thing: the upload and download limit sliders in the options screen seem to be connected in some way, as if to make the user "play fair".  It isn't very clear, though...

Any upload limit below 10 KB/s will limit the download to a 1:3 ratio. It is clear, you just haven't bothered to read the docs, apparently.

[sergivs]

PacoBell, on Sep 6 2005, 07:24 PM, said:

sergivs, on Sep 6 2005, 06:08 PM, said:

One more thing: the upload and download limit sliders in the options screen seem to be connected in some way, as if to make the user "play fair".  It isn't very clear, though...

Any upload limit below 10 KB/s will limit the download to a 1:3 ratio. It is clear, you just haven't bothered to read the docs, apparently.

No, I haven't, at least not about that feature. What I meant was that the UI was not clear -- to me. It's especially confusing considering that the download limit doesn't work, anyway.

[StevenG]

I have had the same problem as the original poster, I haven't used emule in some 6 months. Just haven't wanted to download anything and with all the jabber about people going to jail or being sued and stuff I'm not even sure which of my files are legal anymore.

Anyways, back to my point.

I downloaded and installed eMule last night and used mostly the default settings. I forwarded the ports through my router since I share a network with about 6 others users.

My problem is also that although my max upload speed is set to 22 kB/s and my upload limit was set to 16 kB/s, my uploads have been adding to go to my maximum allowable upload speed for my connection. When you share your bandwidth with 3 to 4 other guys who actively use the internet at a time, this is bad.

They want to kill me when their first person shooters get bogged down because I am running an out of control client. I checked to make sure the "smart upload" limit in the advanced section was not activated and I have tried reducing the speed to as low as 5 kB/s with no avail. As it goes right now, I cannot run eMule while anyone is doing something on the internet unless I want to piss them all off. I would like to change this and still contribute to the community.

[StevenG]

With further testing I have found a bug in eMule which effectively allows cheating the system. Basically all that I did was set my lowest allowable upload speed to an insanely high number and now I can still download at the high speeds but no one on my queue is able to connect to me. I suspect this is not intended by the programmers.

Anyways I still haven't figured out a solution to the original posters problem and may end up downgrading my version to an older stored version of eMule to correct this.

[StevenG]

Ah! The Xtreme mod for eMule seems to have solved my problem!

[niclights]

When you set the UL Limit to 16kB/s you will still get significant overheads. That is the reason for setting UL Limit.

No matter what you do, this will perform badly on a network of six machines. Even without Emule a bandwidth of 22 shared between six is scary. The only real solution would be a router that can define hard limits for each machine.

The best thing you can do to help is reduce your Max Connections and Max Connections/5sec values. I would say 50 and 5 respectively and do not use Kad.

[StevenG]

actually my connections limit for upload is 64 kB/s, so I set 22kB/s as my personal max limit with overhead included so that I will never bug anyone else on my network who is not also uploading.

[leexgx]

its an known problem that emule does not limit TCP overhead (use net limiter)

rule is upload line limit 16kB(128) emule limit 11kB (or 10kB)
with 256kb (norm 28kB tops) lines norm 22kB-23kB in emule