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#241 User is offline   goldendawn 

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Posted 28 November 2007 - 02:58 PM

View PostUnknown1, on Jul 20 2003, 02:48 AM, said:

I'm tired of hearing of everyone complaining about slow downloads and trying to explain the same thing over and over. I'm going to try to explain a few things here and just point people to it.

Connection speed settings:
The first thing you must do is find out how fast your connection really is. One place you can try is Broadband Reports. Make sure you shut down any program that uses the internet before starting the test. You will recieve two results. One for your download speed and one upload speed. For example, a DSL may recieve 1220 download and 110 upload. Then go into eMules Preferences and click on Connection. Within the Connection window, click the Wizard button. At the bottom of the wizard screen, enter your results from the test you just did. Press apply.

If you know what kind of connection you have, it is still highly recommend that you type these valuse within the wizard since it also sets up all the other network settings to match your connection.

Warning: If you do NOT take the time to set these setting or feel like setting some of these values to very high settings, you will not have a good experience with eMule! If you set your upload to high, this will actually cause your downloads to be very slow. Also, setting the max sources and max connections to high values can cause your internet connection to die forcing you to reboot your machine and/or router.

<span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>(If the speed test requires java, go to http://java.sun.com/ and install it from there.)</span>

LowID:
Another problem you may be having is that people are not able to "see" you. This means that your client is firewalled and you will recieve a LowID. Although you can still download like this, it does limit you some. Here is a link to better info one this.

Supply and Demand
The fact is, total upload = total download within a network. A large portion of the users in the network are DSL type users with connections that can download at speeds over 100Kb/s but can only upload at about 12Kb/s. So, lets say this is a perfect world and everyone is uploading at their max of 12Kb/s. This means everyone is downloading at 12Kb/s no matter how fast you are capable of downloading!! But this isn't a perfect world. So, sometimes you will download at a fast pace at the expense of someone else downloading at a slower pace.. And at other times, you will download at a slow pace, while others download at a fast pace.

A basic overview of the ED2K network:
Many people will still complain that they can download with amazing speeds on other networks and not on eMule. This is because the content on the two networks are completely different. eMule's content is full of very large files. Transfering very large files to a lot of users in a reliable fashion is very hard. For example, downloading a large file with Kazaa is very unreliable. You may start off with a fast transfer, but if that person disconnects, your download may be a waste. Also the data you're downloading can get corrupted as their method of corruption detection is not very good.
So, why is eMule better at this? I'll try to break it down with a very basic example which would work only in a perfect world, but gets the point across.


eMule
Lets say I want to share a semi large file, 144MB and I have a 30K connection and 16 people are wanting the file. eMule will break this file into 16 parts of 9MBs each. Now, instead of uploading the entire file to one person at a fast speed, I upload to about 8 users at a slower speed. Each of these people should be downloading a different part of the file. Once these initial uploads recieve 9MB, I send them back to the queue and start uploading to the other 8 users. Since those first 8 users recieve 9MB (or a complete chunk), they now start uploading that chunk to everyone else wanting the file. When the second set of 8 users finish downloading 9MB, they are put back on the queue. Now, if everyone downloaded a different 9MB chunk from me, I have just uploaded 16 chunks (The whole file) into the network and could even unshare the file since I also now have 16 users helping me share it. Now, this means that everyone gets the files slower, but they ALL get the file even if I leave the network.. So, lets say after uploading 300MB of the file, I disconnect. Then after I disconnect, more people want to download that file. Although there isn't anyone in the network with the full file yet, they can still get it because they find the 16 other sources of that file still on the network. Then they themselves quickly become sources for others that want it.


Other networks
Again, I want to share a semi large file, 144MB and I have a 30K connection and 16 people are wanting the file. I start uploading that file to one of the people wanting the file. This persons downloads at pretty fast speed.. But, when he finishes the download, he disconnects so he can use it. I upload to the next person real fast and he completes it. He stays on a bit and begins to share it to one other users. I also begin to upload to the next user.. But I disconnect at 300MB.. This leaves only one person able to share that file in the network and this person doesn't stay on long either since he has the complete file. Now, only two people got the whole file, and 2 others only have part of the file. The file is now dead to the network and nobody else can get it.

OK, I just typed this up without really thinking to hard about it. It is very hard to simply explain how this network works in just a few paragraphs, without preparing, as I just found out.. :) But, hopefully this helps some people.

Warning: I will keep this thread open for discussion.. But most likely will update the main post periodically with the good information and corrections and delete the added posts to keep this thread clean. So don't be surprised if your post disapears, it's nothing personal.

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Posted 28 November 2007 - 03:06 PM

Well explained. Thanks for your time.

I have been attempting to figure out why the eMule downloads quickly new added files but appears to almost ignore old ones that are quite far along but are being downloading extremely slow. Is it possible that somehow those older downloads are somehow corrupted in my system? I have had to make so many changes and closed and opened the eMule... but they DO eventually finish. I have of course thought of simply adding them again, fresh, to the download list, and delete the mostly finished ones - but I wanted to know the reasons.

Today, I have discovered that somehow in the program/config folder, ALL of the .dat files have been changed to show their type as being Video CD movie. I do not know how this happened, nor if this affects the way eMule functions. Does someone know what I should do? How can I change them all back to the correct file type?
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Posted 31 January 2008 - 08:51 PM

I have a good upload and download speed but everyt time I get to 99.8% or 99.9% my download/s come to an olmost complet stop.
The entier file might download at 200KB/s but then it gets to this point and it starts to download at something like 150B/s

Any one know why this is and how I might fix it?

Thanks. ^_^

- DTC
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Posted 26 February 2008 - 12:39 PM

Hi
I am quite new to this forum. However, I am not that new to the eMule itself.
Before posting anything I tried to go through the forum and this particular thread. However, please admit that reading and implementing each and every instructions given in tons of post is nearly impractical.
My problem started when we moved to this new house and I went into a contract with one of the nationwide ISP's.Before this , I was able to have decent downloads without having touched any settings after installation , except for port forwarding of course.
With the new ISP and my new D-Link wireless modem/router , I have practically no downloads. I have already done the following:

1. The internet connection is nominally 1500/256.
2. I have successfully forwarded the ports and do have high ID all the time.( both before and after implementing setting changes recommended in the forum).
3. I have found out that my actual speed is around 1320/210.
4. I have entered the above values to the eMule's connection type settings manually.
5. I have turned the USS on.
6. I have not made any changes to Hard Limit(500) and Max Connections(400).
7. I tried both unchecking and checking speed limits. Currently, my upload limits are checked with 17KB/S , nearly 80% of my download limit.
8. I have entered 30 for max connections/5s as per recommended by one of the users.
9. My default ports were TCP:60859 and UDP:36546, both open and successfully forwarded.
10. As a final resort, I tried changing them to random ports 64100 and 64200 respectively, again open and well forwarded.
11. I have been waiting nearly a day between making each of the above changes.However, I have only downloaded around 2 megabytes in all these days which is quite disappointing.

I need to say that with a 256/256 low quality connection I never had any problems and downloaded gigs just by leaving the computer on for 1-2 nights, and I never had to change any settings from the default , and I never waited for a download to start longer than a few hrs.
It would be much appreciated if you experts could help me out of this. Actually , the night when I started reading this thread I started to hope that there were much I could do to solve my problem.However, nothing seems to have changed, if not any worse.
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Posted 26 February 2008 - 02:54 PM

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please admit that reading and implementing each and every instructions given in tons of post is nearly impractical.
Thats the reason cause you ought to start a new topic in another section of Support instead of posting in a Guide.

Cheers :D

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Posted 27 February 2008 - 01:10 AM

View Posttorpon, on Feb 27 2008, 01:54 AM, said:

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please admit that reading and implementing each and every instructions given in tons of post is nearly impractical.
Thats the reason cause you ought to start a new topic in another section of Support instead of posting in a Guide.

Cheers :D



I really didn't intend to make a new topic for my personal problem while an integrated topic like this is there and everyone with similar problems are asking questions right here. Actually, I thought like most other forums this was discouraged to open a new thread for every post. I still hope to receive my solution in this same thread , and if not , yes, I am going to open a new thread if that's what you have in mind.
Thanks anyway.
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Posted 27 April 2008 - 03:50 PM

I'm using emule a48 razorback version with the hight speed credit system that'll allow the hight speed downloadin' of some files with more than 30 credits earned from uploadin' files... my prob is just that when I close emule and restart it it tells that my credits earned was not saved on last exit, what should I do to save these credits before exit?...plz help
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Posted 27 April 2008 - 05:26 PM

First of all, this isn't a topic in which we provide support. If you have a question, start a new topic.

View PostrMoty, on Apr 27 2008, 05:50 PM, said:

I'm using emule a48 razorback version...

Second, eMule mods are supported only in the eMule mods forum. But I really doubt that there'll be support for the Razorback mod, because it's not one of the mods that is sanctioned here.

You are best off to switch to the Official eMule that you can download via the "Downloads" link at the top of every page of this forum, if you want our help.

This post has been edited by Stoepsel: 27 April 2008 - 05:26 PM

It said: "Insert disk #3 into drive...", but only 2 will fit...?!?
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Posted 11 May 2008 - 09:14 PM

View PostDTC, on Jan 31 2008, 09:51 PM, said:

I have a good upload and download speed but everyt time I get to 99.8% or 99.9% my download/s come to an olmost complet stop.
The entier file might download at 200KB/s but then it gets to this point and it starts to download at something like 150B/s

Any one know why this is and how I might fix it?

Thanks. ^_^

- DTC


official fix is wait 1-10 hrs to compleat or restart the client
you can use an client that has EndGame {rids the download stallers at the end when file is about to compleat} (still not in official 49a emule :( ) look at bold below
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Posted 07 May 2009 - 12:31 AM

Thanks! this helped a lot
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Posted 17 January 2014 - 03:08 PM

View PostUnknown1, on 19 July 2003 - 10:48 PM, said:

I'm tired of hearing of everyone complaining about slow downloads and trying to explain the same thing over and over. I'm going to try to explain a few things here and just point people to it.

Connection speed settings:
The first thing you must do is find out how fast your connection really is. One place you can try is Broadband Reports. Make sure you shut down any program that uses the internet before starting the test. You will recieve two results. One for your download speed and one upload speed. For example, a DSL may recieve 1220 download and 110 upload. Then go into eMules Preferences and click on Connection. Within the Connection window, click the Wizard button. At the bottom of the wizard screen, enter your results from the test you just did. Press apply.

If you know what kind of connection you have, it is still highly recommend that you type these valuse within the wizard since it also sets up all the other network settings to match your connection.

Warning: If you do NOT take the time to set these setting or feel like setting some of these values to very high settings, you will not have a good experience with eMule! If you set your upload to high, this will actually cause your downloads to be very slow. Also, setting the max sources and max connections to high values can cause your internet connection to die forcing you to reboot your machine and/or router.

<span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>(If the speed test requires java, go to http://java.sun.com/ and install it from there.)</span>

LowID:
Another problem you may be having is that people are not able to "see" you. This means that your client is firewalled and you will recieve a LowID. Although you can still download like this, it does limit you some. Here is a link to better info one this.

Supply and Demand
The fact is, total upload = total download within a network. A large portion of the users in the network are DSL type users with connections that can download at speeds over 100Kb/s but can only upload at about 12Kb/s. So, lets say this is a perfect world and everyone is uploading at their max of 12Kb/s. This means everyone is downloading at 12Kb/s no matter how fast you are capable of downloading!! But this isn't a perfect world. So, sometimes you will download at a fast pace at the expense of someone else downloading at a slower pace.. And at other times, you will download at a slow pace, while others download at a fast pace.

A basic overview of the ED2K network:
Many people will still complain that they can download with amazing speeds on other networks and not on eMule. This is because the content on the two networks are completely different. eMule's content is full of very large files. Transfering very large files to a lot of users in a reliable fashion is very hard. For example, downloading a large file with Kazaa is very unreliable. You may start off with a fast transfer, but if that person disconnects, your download may be a waste. Also the data you're downloading can get corrupted as their method of corruption detection is not very good.
So, why is eMule better at this? I'll try to break it down with a very basic example which would work only in a perfect world, but gets the point across.


eMule
Lets say I want to share a semi large file, 144MB and I have a 30K connection and 16 people are wanting the file. eMule will break this file into 16 parts of 9MBs each. Now, instead of uploading the entire file to one person at a fast speed, I upload to about 8 users at a slower speed. Each of these people should be downloading a different part of the file. Once these initial uploads recieve 9MB, I send them back to the queue and start uploading to the other 8 users. Since those first 8 users recieve 9MB (or a complete chunk), they now start uploading that chunk to everyone else wanting the file. When the second set of 8 users finish downloading 9MB, they are put back on the queue. Now, if everyone downloaded a different 9MB chunk from me, I have just uploaded 16 chunks (The whole file) into the network and could even unshare the file since I also now have 16 users helping me share it. Now, this means that everyone gets the files slower, but they ALL get the file even if I leave the network.. So, lets say after uploading 300MB of the file, I disconnect. Then after I disconnect, more people want to download that file. Although there isn't anyone in the network with the full file yet, they can still get it because they find the 16 other sources of that file still on the network. Then they themselves quickly become sources for others that want it.


Other networks
Again, I want to share a semi large file, 144MB and I have a 30K connection and 16 people are wanting the file. I start uploading that file to one of the people wanting the file. This persons downloads at pretty fast speed.. But, when he finishes the download, he disconnects so he can use it. I upload to the next person real fast and he completes it. He stays on a bit and begins to share it to one other users. I also begin to upload to the next user.. But I disconnect at 300MB.. This leaves only one person able to share that file in the network and this person doesn't stay on long either since he has the complete file. Now, only two people got the whole file, and 2 others only have part of the file. The file is now dead to the network and nobody else can get it.

OK, I just typed this up without really thinking to hard about it. It is very hard to simply explain how this network works in just a few paragraphs, without preparing, as I just found out.. :) But, hopefully this helps some people.

Warning: I will keep this thread open for discussion.. But most likely will update the main post periodically with the good information and corrections and delete the added posts to keep this thread clean. So don't be surprised if your post disapears, it's nothing personal.

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Posted 17 January 2014 - 03:11 PM

View PostUnknown1, on 19 July 2003 - 10:48 PM, said:

I'm tired of hearing of everyone complaining about slow downloads and trying to explain the same thing over and over. I'm going to try to explain a few things here and just point people to it.

Connection speed settings:
The first thing you must do is find out how fast your connection really is. One place you can try is Broadband Reports. Make sure you shut down any program that uses the internet before starting the test. You will recieve two results. One for your download speed and one upload speed. For example, a DSL may recieve 1220 download and 110 upload. Then go into eMules Preferences and click on Connection. Within the Connection window, click the Wizard button. At the bottom of the wizard screen, enter your results from the test you just did. Press apply.

If you know what kind of connection you have, it is still highly recommend that you type these valuse within the wizard since it also sets up all the other network settings to match your connection.

Warning: If you do NOT take the time to set these setting or feel like setting some of these values to very high settings, you will not have a good experience with eMule! If you set your upload to high, this will actually cause your downloads to be very slow. Also, setting the max sources and max connections to high values can cause your internet connection to die forcing you to reboot your machine and/or router.

<span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>(If the speed test requires java, go to http://java.sun.com/ and install it from there.)</span>

LowID:
Another problem you may be having is that people are not able to "see" you. This means that your client is firewalled and you will recieve a LowID. Although you can still download like this, it does limit you some. Here is a link to better info one this.

Supply and Demand
The fact is, total upload = total download within a network. A large portion of the users in the network are DSL type users with connections that can download at speeds over 100Kb/s but can only upload at about 12Kb/s. So, lets say this is a perfect world and everyone is uploading at their max of 12Kb/s. This means everyone is downloading at 12Kb/s no matter how fast you are capable of downloading!! But this isn't a perfect world. So, sometimes you will download at a fast pace at the expense of someone else downloading at a slower pace.. And at other times, you will download at a slow pace, while others download at a fast pace.

A basic overview of the ED2K network:
Many people will still complain that they can download with amazing speeds on other networks and not on eMule. This is because the content on the two networks are completely different. eMule's content is full of very large files. Transfering very large files to a lot of users in a reliable fashion is very hard. For example, downloading a large file with Kazaa is very unreliable. You may start off with a fast transfer, but if that person disconnects, your download may be a waste. Also the data you're downloading can get corrupted as their method of corruption detection is not very good.
So, why is eMule better at this? I'll try to break it down with a very basic example which would work only in a perfect world, but gets the point across.


eMule
Lets say I want to share a semi large file, 144MB and I have a 30K connection and 16 people are wanting the file. eMule will break this file into 16 parts of 9MBs each. Now, instead of uploading the entire file to one person at a fast speed, I upload to about 8 users at a slower speed. Each of these people should be downloading a different part of the file. Once these initial uploads recieve 9MB, I send them back to the queue and start uploading to the other 8 users. Since those first 8 users recieve 9MB (or a complete chunk), they now start uploading that chunk to everyone else wanting the file. When the second set of 8 users finish downloading 9MB, they are put back on the queue. Now, if everyone downloaded a different 9MB chunk from me, I have just uploaded 16 chunks (The whole file) into the network and could even unshare the file since I also now have 16 users helping me share it. Now, this means that everyone gets the files slower, but they ALL get the file even if I leave the network.. So, lets say after uploading 300MB of the file, I disconnect. Then after I disconnect, more people want to download that file. Although there isn't anyone in the network with the full file yet, they can still get it because they find the 16 other sources of that file still on the network. Then they themselves quickly become sources for others that want it.


Other networks
Again, I want to share a semi large file, 144MB and I have a 30K connection and 16 people are wanting the file. I start uploading that file to one of the people wanting the file. This persons downloads at pretty fast speed.. But, when he finishes the download, he disconnects so he can use it. I upload to the next person real fast and he completes it. He stays on a bit and begins to share it to one other users. I also begin to upload to the next user.. But I disconnect at 300MB.. This leaves only one person able to share that file in the network and this person doesn't stay on long either since he has the complete file. Now, only two people got the whole file, and 2 others only have part of the file. The file is now dead to the network and nobody else can get it.

OK, I just typed this up without really thinking to hard about it. It is very hard to simply explain how this network works in just a few paragraphs, without preparing, as I just found out.. :) But, hopefully this helps some people.

Warning: I will keep this thread open for discussion.. But most likely will update the main post periodically with the good information and corrections and delete the added posts to keep this thread clean. So don't be surprised if your post disapears, it's nothing personal.

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Posted 17 January 2014 - 03:29 PM

Hello, Unknown1
Please do not be upset with our ignorance on the subject lol lol
See, friend: I'm an e-Mule's user for about 6 years, after a my friend installed it in my PC and all went smooth and well because I had a low speed connection with my downloads truly quick, according to my net speed. And I never thought, since then, that e-Mule would have so much peculiarities, so much tricks and tips what I started know when entering the Forum for the first time. And I think it is a lot complicated to persons that do not have intimacy with all the "ingredients" of a download application as it is e-Mule; for example simple things as high and low ID (in my case I always have a high ID), ports configuration,upload, download etc etc.
Well to set things simple, I will read all information posted here to see what I understand and what I can do have better speed in my dowloads.
For now, it is what I can say.
I have to THANKS all friends that trouble themselves in posting a recommendation and a way to solve this quest.
That's all for now.
MANY THANKS TO ALL OF YOU.

View PostUnknown1, on 19 July 2003 - 10:48 PM, said:

I'm tired of hearing of everyone complaining about slow downloads and trying to explain the same thing over and over. I'm going to try to explain a few things here and just point people to it.

Connection speed settings:
The first thing you must do is find out how fast your connection really is. One place you can try is Broadband Reports. Make sure you shut down any program that uses the internet before starting the test. You will recieve two results. One for your download speed and one upload speed. For example, a DSL may recieve 1220 download and 110 upload. Then go into eMules Preferences and click on Connection. Within the Connection window, click the Wizard button. At the bottom of the wizard screen, enter your results from the test you just did. Press apply.

If you know what kind of connection you have, it is still highly recommend that you type these valuse within the wizard since it also sets up all the other network settings to match your connection.

Warning: If you do NOT take the time to set these setting or feel like setting some of these values to very high settings, you will not have a good experience with eMule! If you set your upload to high, this will actually cause your downloads to be very slow. Also, setting the max sources and max connections to high values can cause your internet connection to die forcing you to reboot your machine and/or router.

<span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>(If the speed test requires java, go to http://java.sun.com/ and install it from there.)</span>

LowID:
Another problem you may be having is that people are not able to "see" you. This means that your client is firewalled and you will recieve a LowID. Although you can still download like this, it does limit you some. Here is a link to better info one this.

Supply and Demand
The fact is, total upload = total download within a network. A large portion of the users in the network are DSL type users with connections that can download at speeds over 100Kb/s but can only upload at about 12Kb/s. So, lets say this is a perfect world and everyone is uploading at their max of 12Kb/s. This means everyone is downloading at 12Kb/s no matter how fast you are capable of downloading!! But this isn't a perfect world. So, sometimes you will download at a fast pace at the expense of someone else downloading at a slower pace.. And at other times, you will download at a slow pace, while others download at a fast pace.

A basic overview of the ED2K network:
Many people will still complain that they can download with amazing speeds on other networks and not on eMule. This is because the content on the two networks are completely different. eMule's content is full of very large files. Transfering very large files to a lot of users in a reliable fashion is very hard. For example, downloading a large file with Kazaa is very unreliable. You may start off with a fast transfer, but if that person disconnects, your download may be a waste. Also the data you're downloading can get corrupted as their method of corruption detection is not very good.
So, why is eMule better at this? I'll try to break it down with a very basic example which would work only in a perfect world, but gets the point across.


eMule
Lets say I want to share a semi large file, 144MB and I have a 30K connection and 16 people are wanting the file. eMule will break this file into 16 parts of 9MBs each. Now, instead of uploading the entire file to one person at a fast speed, I upload to about 8 users at a slower speed. Each of these people should be downloading a different part of the file. Once these initial uploads recieve 9MB, I send them back to the queue and start uploading to the other 8 users. Since those first 8 users recieve 9MB (or a complete chunk), they now start uploading that chunk to everyone else wanting the file. When the second set of 8 users finish downloading 9MB, they are put back on the queue. Now, if everyone downloaded a different 9MB chunk from me, I have just uploaded 16 chunks (The whole file) into the network and could even unshare the file since I also now have 16 users helping me share it. Now, this means that everyone gets the files slower, but they ALL get the file even if I leave the network.. So, lets say after uploading 300MB of the file, I disconnect. Then after I disconnect, more people want to download that file. Although there isn't anyone in the network with the full file yet, they can still get it because they find the 16 other sources of that file still on the network. Then they themselves quickly become sources for others that want it.


Other networks
Again, I want to share a semi large file, 144MB and I have a 30K connection and 16 people are wanting the file. I start uploading that file to one of the people wanting the file. This persons downloads at pretty fast speed.. But, when he finishes the download, he disconnects so he can use it. I upload to the next person real fast and he completes it. He stays on a bit and begins to share it to one other users. I also begin to upload to the next user.. But I disconnect at 300MB.. This leaves only one person able to share that file in the network and this person doesn't stay on long either since he has the complete file. Now, only two people got the whole file, and 2 others only have part of the file. The file is now dead to the network and nobody else can get it.

OK, I just typed this up without really thinking to hard about it. It is very hard to simply explain how this network works in just a few paragraphs, without preparing, as I just found out.. :) But, hopefully this helps some people.

Warning: I will keep this thread open for discussion.. But most likely will update the main post periodically with the good information and corrections and delete the added posts to keep this thread clean. So don't be surprised if your post disapears, it's nothing personal.

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