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[Solved] Alternate Data Streams (Ads) As Security Identifiers On Xp

#1 User is offline   squidlogic 

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Posted 29 May 2020 - 10:27 PM

Solution on #5 post of this thread:
https://forum.emule-...dpost&p=1103655

Hi, (eMule 0.50a)

Until recently (believe it or not) I was using Windows 2000 (yeah, 2000) happily along with eMule.

For hardware reasons I had to switch to new hardware and because I didn't want to switch to a newer Windows for basic usage, I went for XP (rarely used and less with eMule). Note: I know what I use, why I use and how I use, so, please, save your speech about older systems, security and any other unnecessary noise to the conversation.

The thing is that I don't know how had XP marked the downloads folder of eMule but every time I try to open any (or almost) single inoffensive file, I get the damn known dialog asking, "do you really want to open this file, it can be dangerous" (more or less, I don't know the exact words and my system is not on english).

After disk inspection, XP attaches Alternate Data Streams (ADS) to every file downloaded with eMule with the Zone security ID 3. But only in the eMule downloads folder!!! Ha!!! And no matter if I delete ADS for every file, for whatever reason XP marks the folder as download folder (despite I really have a downloads folder for browsing and it doesn't do it there) and... you know what? new files have new Alternate Data Streams attached.

Is there any way to tell eMule, if it is an eMule issue, or XP, or other Windows systems (if newer do the same), to stop going wild and marking files with security zones to later tell me what is dangerous or what is not?

Changing the Control panel > Internet Settings > zones, is not the way, I simply want XP (or eMule, if it is eMule) to stop attaching ADS to the downloaded files.

Thanks for the help, even most of you won't be using XP any more ;) but if you are aware of a fix.

This post has been edited by squidlogic: 05 June 2020 - 12:32 AM

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#2 User is offline   fox88 

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Posted 01 June 2020 - 10:40 AM

View Postsquidlogic, on 30 May 2020 - 01:27 AM, said:

Is there any way to tell eMule, if it is an eMule issue, or XP, or other Windows systems (if newer do the same), to stop going wild and marking files with security zones to later tell me what is dangerous or what is not?

No; eMule does the right thing without going wild.
The rest of noise was cancelled.
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#3 User is offline   megaT 

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Posted 02 June 2020 - 03:19 PM

View Postfox88, on 01 June 2020 - 10:40 AM, said:

View Postsquidlogic, on 30 May 2020 - 01:27 AM, said:

Is there any way to tell eMule, if it is an eMule issue, or XP, or other Windows systems (if newer do the same), to stop going wild and marking files with security zones to later tell me what is dangerous or what is not?

No; eMule does the right thing without going wild.
The rest of noise was cancelled.

Is eMule really using ADS actively or is this some implicit behavoiur coming out of the network/Win stack?
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#4 User is offline   squidlogic 

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Posted 04 June 2020 - 03:35 PM

View Postfox88, on 01 June 2020 - 12:40 PM, said:

View Postsquidlogic, on 30 May 2020 - 01:27 AM, said:

Is there any way to tell eMule, if it is an eMule issue, or XP, or other Windows systems (if newer do the same), to stop going wild and marking files with security zones to later tell me what is dangerous or what is not?

No; eMule does the right thing without going wild.
The rest of noise was cancelled.


Sorry the late reply (delayed forum notifications).

So, what does that mean exactly?

I mean, is the OS marking the folder to add ADS, or is eMule adding ADS by itself? (Joining megaT question)

If I understand literally, it means that it adds the ADS by itself?

By the way, when I used the phrase going wild, I wasn't meaning eMule, even though I included it in the conditional. Was more towards blaming XP.

If so..., to be polite, I better save what I had to say. But just a question, why on XP yes, and why on 2000 no (that support ADS as well).

Personally, I don't like nanny behaviours on programs (in this case marking files so the system warns me). I would expect this from the system (even though I dislike too), but not by a program.

I think the only solution might be to make regular ADS clean-ups with tools as those by nirsoft on eMule downloads folder.

This post has been edited by squidlogic: 04 June 2020 - 03:37 PM

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#5 User is offline   tanke 

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Posted 04 June 2020 - 04:24 PM

They are added by emule on systems with Windows XP SP2 or later

You can disable it by unticking "Warn when opening untrusted files" option from Options->Security tab.
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Posted 05 June 2020 - 12:29 AM

View Posttanke, on 04 June 2020 - 06:24 PM, said:

They are added by emule on systems with Windows XP SP2 or later

You can disable it by unticking "Warn when opening untrusted files" option from Options->Security tab.


Thanks, I confirm it works and stops adding ADS descriptors to files.

After you said it I checked the help page and it is there. For quicker reference:
https://www.emule-pr...ic&topic_id=119
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