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P2P Networks Around? Other than the classical torrent / ed2k

#1 User is offline   pier4r 

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Posted 02 January 2016 - 09:11 AM

Hello everyone, years ago (~2010?) i did a search finding a paper that showed the estimated usage of peer to peer network across continents. Now i'm a bit rusty about this knowledge, is someone more updated?

By feelings i would say that nowadays the most used p2p protocol is torrent, but i wouldn't be sure to say that emule is the second.
I remember (even if i never used them, since i fell in love with emule) gnutella, limewire, directConnect . Are those more used than ed2k ?
Are out there other protocols? I mean for filesharing, else bitcoin, i would say, is the first nowadays.

Never liked bitcoin, but it introduces a great idea that could be used for a global credit system. It will choke the relatively slow connections to keep up with the transaction chain, but it is a start. Since the global credit system can change quite a lot the emule behavior.

This post has been edited by pier4r: 02 January 2016 - 09:13 AM

>>>Feature Request (ICS) or SOTN, EmuleCollectionV2 >>> Emule on old hardware (intel pentium 2 or 3 - via c3 - and so on) with good OS settings and enough ram (256+ mb): great >>>user of: eMule - Xtreme - ZZUL bastard - SharX - SharkX 1.8b5 pierQR - ZZUL-Tra - ZZUL-Tra-TL - kMule - Beba

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Posted 02 January 2016 - 10:20 PM

Gnutella 2 or G2

It's used by Shareaza and Ares. I don't think they are compatible so I don't think they can connect to each other.
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Posted 06 January 2016 - 04:33 AM

I don't know that site for how I'm new for this site but i use to p2p protocol torrent.more have torrent download site they are a here
http://www.it-bari.com

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Posted 06 January 2016 - 11:03 AM

I asked also elsewhere, it seems that torrent is quite the most used one, the others share little (if they are working). https://www.reddit.c...etwork_traffic/
>>>Feature Request (ICS) or SOTN, EmuleCollectionV2 >>> Emule on old hardware (intel pentium 2 or 3 - via c3 - and so on) with good OS settings and enough ram (256+ mb): great >>>user of: eMule - Xtreme - ZZUL bastard - SharX - SharkX 1.8b5 pierQR - ZZUL-Tra - ZZUL-Tra-TL - kMule - Beba

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Posted 06 January 2016 - 01:08 PM

View Postpier4r, on 06 January 2016 - 11:03 AM, said:

I asked also elsewhere, it seems that torrent is quite the most used one, the others share little (if they are working). https://www.reddit.c...etwork_traffic/


Normally I don't do this but you promoted me from getting of my bed and post this from laptop was I was laying down and reading threads/posts as I always do. I have also checked the external links to reddit which directs to torrentfreak (I use to read them as well and mostly good source in p2p in general), now that being said lets move on.

I was surprised to see in the first link Sandvine which on broadband forum me and few others discuss over decade ago regarding their DPI switch's analyze packets to identify protocol to help mitigate bandwidth problem and place selected users on custom RADIUS profile with strict draconian QoS based policies to sharp their traffic.

As you can see http overtook all protocol due to higher video streams as that was the case when I stop and moved away from p2p scene as in general. Torrent is dominate and the biggest flaw with torrent is also its greatest strength. As I don't need to tell you the problem with torrent and its leeching well known problem, that is not what ED2K is about. ED2K has high footprint in EU and very small footprint in US.

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Posted 07 January 2016 - 11:59 AM

well "high" relatively. ed2k is able to be, according to that company, in the top10 usages in Europe, but still minuscule compared to torrent.

Nevertheless for me is not a battle like 'people should use the protocol X' i wanted to know what is the current situation. In general every (alive) protocol has pro and cons. It seems that aside from torrent, the others are used very a little (in terms of bandwidth). That's it.
>>>Feature Request (ICS) or SOTN, EmuleCollectionV2 >>> Emule on old hardware (intel pentium 2 or 3 - via c3 - and so on) with good OS settings and enough ram (256+ mb): great >>>user of: eMule - Xtreme - ZZUL bastard - SharX - SharkX 1.8b5 pierQR - ZZUL-Tra - ZZUL-Tra-TL - kMule - Beba

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Posted 07 January 2016 - 03:21 PM

View Postpier4r, on 07 January 2016 - 11:59 AM, said:

well "high" relatively. ed2k is able to be, according to that company, in the top10 usages in Europe, but still minuscule compared to torrent.

Nevertheless for me is not a battle like 'people should use the protocol X' i wanted to know what is the current situation. In general every (alive) protocol has pro and cons. It seems that aside from torrent, the others are used very a little (in terms of bandwidth). That's it.



Well you misunderstood my friend. When I said "HIGH" it was compared to regional user based on ED2K's userbase, go to: (http://edk.peerates.net/peers.php?) there aren't any full ED2K sites left anymore but Peerates is still among us. I told you from the start this is not Torrent vs ED2K, as thats not what ED2K is about. Torrent is dominate as we all know it and no one is denying that but as it has been discussed many times over the years by design what Torrent is doing is what ED2K should do and what ED2K is doing is what Torrent should have done, the role has reversed.

Its actually very inconvenient for someone to share via Torrent compared to drag and drop of ED2K. Furthermore ~mule is using hybrid network where ED2K (2G-P2P; centralized) and KAD (3G-P2P; decentralized). I can go on with Torrent but as I said thats not what its about. Torrent gained a lot of publicity with TBP not to mention Pirate Party in Sweden to fight civil rights, copyright, patent law, ect.

Torrent has a very low life span where all file ends up in ED2K in the end. Look at my stats I just returned like month ago back to P2P after I had all my servers shutdown by force in 2010. I passed 2TB already, so make sure to share on ED2K :) if you share it they will come...
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Posted 07 January 2016 - 07:55 PM

It is my principle since long time to share at least once what i get. In the past i shared at least twice, but now the resources are a bit more tight.

For the rest fo your comment, more or less i have nothing else to add :) .

I just observed that thanks to the popularity of android and Mac, amule is reviving a bit and a kad/ed2k client should be provided also for mobile platform. The work done with windows is neat but having a cross platform app (since *mule is mostly I/O based and not cpu based), would help. Of course this means a huge work. Already understanding the actualy emule code requires quite a time, imagine porting it.
>>>Feature Request (ICS) or SOTN, EmuleCollectionV2 >>> Emule on old hardware (intel pentium 2 or 3 - via c3 - and so on) with good OS settings and enough ram (256+ mb): great >>>user of: eMule - Xtreme - ZZUL bastard - SharX - SharkX 1.8b5 pierQR - ZZUL-Tra - ZZUL-Tra-TL - kMule - Beba

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Posted 07 January 2016 - 11:06 PM

View Postpier4r, on 07 January 2016 - 07:55 PM, said:

It is my principle since long time to share at least once what i get. In the past i shared at least twice, but now the resources are a bit more tight.

For the rest fo your comment, more or less i have nothing else to add :) .

I just observed that thanks to the popularity of android and Mac, amule is reviving a bit and a kad/ed2k client should be provided also for mobile platform. The work done with windows is neat but having a cross platform app (since *mule is mostly I/O based and not cpu based), would help. Of course this means a huge work. Already understanding the actualy emule code requires quite a time, imagine porting it.


Well aMule is fork of xMule which is fork of lMule and which was fork of eMule. Its safe to say eMule is de facto Windows client while aMule is for *nix. But in our world we do have access to mldonkey which is far more superior in terms of control. For PC I run UNIX-BSD while all my servers are LINUX-CentOS as i'm myself using aMule for decade+ I built custom ITX box for local while I have 3 remotes all connected to ED2K/KAD.

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Posted 10 January 2016 - 09:51 AM

Nice setup, hopefully is a low power machine. I use one of my netbook (asus 904hd) for the job (well it is promoted as fileserver in the house) plus external HDs. Previously i used p3 / p2 servers that were great, but i had to move without the possibility of bringing them with me.

This post has been edited by pier4r: 10 January 2016 - 09:51 AM

>>>Feature Request (ICS) or SOTN, EmuleCollectionV2 >>> Emule on old hardware (intel pentium 2 or 3 - via c3 - and so on) with good OS settings and enough ram (256+ mb): great >>>user of: eMule - Xtreme - ZZUL bastard - SharX - SharkX 1.8b5 pierQR - ZZUL-Tra - ZZUL-Tra-TL - kMule - Beba

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Posted 10 January 2016 - 05:27 PM

According to collective statrus stat STHNSv4 network has 102 active uploads using 121.17 MB/s bandwidth as its serving 7370 files for 543.53 GB quota.

STHNSv4x1 (Uptime: 30:49 mins)
Active Connections: 9
Upload Rate: 16.64 MB/s

STHNSv4x2 (Uptime: 56:30 mins)
Active Connections: 28
Upload Rate: 26.44 MB/s

STHNSv4x3 (Uptime: 1:07 hours)
Active Connections: 18
Upload Rate: 22.87 MB/s

STHNSv4x4 (Uptime: 54:44 mins)
Active Connections: 30
Upload Rate: 35.61 MB/s

STHNSv4x5 (Uptime: 56:06 mins)
Active Connections: 17
Upload Rate: 19.61 MB/s

Im expending in front of your eyes, I started with 1 FServ when I rejoined eMule-Forum and now I stand with 5 FServs.
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Posted 10 January 2016 - 09:25 PM

eMule1 Settings:
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|--> Max. Upload-Geschwindigkeit: 9.77 MB/s (Limit: 9.77 MB/s)
|--> Gesamtgröße freigegebener Dateien: 1.70 TB
|--> Anzahl freigegebener Dateien: 856
|--> Hochgeladen: 19.83 TB
Zeit seit letztem Reset: 383 Tage 23:44 Stunden

eMule2 Settings:
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|--> Max. Upload-Geschwindigkeit: 9.77 MB/s (Limit: 9.77 MB/s)
|--> Gesamtgröße freigegebener Dateien: 1.70 TB
|--> Anzahl freigegebener Dateien: 856
|--> Hochgeladen: 20.28 TB
Zeit seit letztem Reset: 384 Tage 22:53 Stunden

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ed2k://|server|91.208.162.87|4232|/
ed2k://|server|85.239.33.123|4232|/
ed2k://|server|91.208.162.55|4232|/


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Posted 10 January 2016 - 11:43 PM

View Posthooligan3000, on 10 January 2016 - 09:25 PM, said:

eMule1 Settings:
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|--> Max. Upload-Geschwindigkeit: 9.77 MB/s (Limit: 9.77 MB/s)
|--> Gesamtgröße freigegebener Dateien: 1.70 TB
|--> Anzahl freigegebener Dateien: 856
|--> Hochgeladen: 19.83 TB
Zeit seit letztem Reset: 383 Tage 23:44 Stunden

eMule2 Settings:
==================
|--> Max. Upload-Geschwindigkeit: 9.77 MB/s (Limit: 9.77 MB/s)
|--> Gesamtgröße freigegebener Dateien: 1.70 TB
|--> Anzahl freigegebener Dateien: 856
|--> Hochgeladen: 20.28 TB
Zeit seit letztem Reset: 384 Tage 22:53 Stunden

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Howdy Hooli, are you the operator of SD ed2k server? I went to your official forum few weeks back but since it wasn't in English I didn't join.

I have about 28.7TB of data offline which was reminisce of 13 STHNSv3 FServ's that was shutdown by force back in 2010. Since I decided to resurrect the network last month I'm adding +1 server so far every 2 weeks. If you want I can join your forum and release content there. I'm sure it can speed up your contents as well :) contact me if you want.

PS: I don't serve g4y or cP.
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Posted 11 January 2016 - 07:56 PM

yes im the operator of SD :devil:

ed2k://|server|91.208.162.87|4232|/
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ed2k://|server|91.208.162.55|4232|/


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Posted 11 January 2016 - 10:22 PM

Send me invitation to my GMail with forum releaser account and generate me index of top files on your network with direct http or sftp source for pull so I can dump them all on STHNSv4, as I'll be adding another FServ next week which will bring it to 6th.
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