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Is it tipping good uploaders with bitcoin (or cash) a useful thing?

  1. Yes (6 votes [22.22%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 22.22%

  2. No (20 votes [74.07%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 74.07%

  3. Don't know / Not interested (1 votes [3.70%] - View)

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#1 User is offline   painlord2k 

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 04:05 PM

My idea is about allowing a downloader to pay using bitcoin a good uploader (say in the range of 500-1000 MB).
The uploader could setup a bitcoin address (one for every download client willing to tip him) and offset 500-1000 MB of upload from the specific client.
When the coins arrive to the address the Upload "debt" is cleared up.

This should allow people to give back to good uploaders in cash what they could not give to the network in bandwidth and file sharing.
This would reward good eMule uploaders, would allow downloaders to reward them if they want to, would push to develop the network in something bigger (and scarier for some).

Currently, the bigger issue, for me, is the limited number of files I'm able to share (I'm over 40K files shared). Without some monetary incentive the development will lag like it is already lagging.
If there is a way to reward people for uploading, then there will be an incentive to develop a system where they can share more files with eMule, there will be incentives to upgrade the ISP subscriptions UP bandwidth and so on.
Other advantages, in my opinion, would be to enlarge the user base of Bitcoin, add traffic to the network (making more difficult to track money flows) and push the development of the Bitcoin network.

Another possibility would be to use Jeb McCaleb Ripple protocol (but it is in development) and it is very difficult to anonymize it.
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Posted 01 July 2013 - 06:22 PM

and who pays for the bitcoins?

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Posted 24 July 2013 - 08:18 PM

View Posthooligan3000, on 01 July 2013 - 08:22 PM, said:

and who pays for the bitcoins?



Offcourse the downloader should pay for the bitcoins. For example if i should feel like giving a uploader some bitcoins,then i would offcourse spend my own bitcoins but through the emule client.

By the way.. i think the possibility to donate some bitcoins to a uploader... itīs a wonderful idea.

Sorry for my bad english
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Posted 23 August 2013 - 11:22 AM

View Postpainlord2k, on 01 July 2013 - 05:05 PM, said:

My idea is about allowing a downloader to pay using bitcoin a good uploader (say in the range of 500-1000 MB).
The uploader could setup a bitcoin address (one for every download client willing to tip him) and offset 500-1000 MB of upload from the specific client.
When the coins arrive to the address the Upload "debt" is cleared up.

This should allow people to give back to good uploaders in cash what they could not give to the network in bandwidth and file sharing.
This would reward good eMule uploaders, would allow downloaders to reward them if they want to, would push to develop the network in something bigger (and scarier for some).

Currently, the bigger issue, for me, is the limited number of files I'm able to share (I'm over 40K files shared). Without some monetary incentive the development will lag like it is already lagging.
If there is a way to reward people for uploading, then there will be an incentive to develop a system where they can share more files with eMule, there will be incentives to upgrade the ISP subscriptions UP bandwidth and so on.
Other advantages, in my opinion, would be to enlarge the user base of Bitcoin, add traffic to the network (making more difficult to track money flows) and push the development of the Bitcoin network.

Another possibility would be to use Jeb McCaleb Ripple protocol (but it is in development) and it is very difficult to anonymize it.


The problem is about fakes, in this way they are going to produce a lot of fakes in order to rise their upload demand.
As far as there is no a real service for file name validation, I think this is not going to help.
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Posted 03 December 2013 - 11:49 AM

View Postfabtar, on 23 August 2013 - 11:22 AM, said:

The problem is about fakes, in this way they are going to produce a lot of fakes in order to rise their upload demand.
As far as there is no a real service for file name validation, I think this is not going to help.


1) The tipping would not be automatic. It is determined by the user
2) I have no problem with fakes, I usually use links from forums and they are checked and validated by many users.
3) Being validated by many users, when they are released, there are many good sources (high UP speed) that should be rewarded for the effort.
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Posted 14 December 2013 - 12:18 PM

Just to add something to the discussion:

BitTorrent Client Devs Work on Bitcoin Integration Reddit

BitTorrent Client Devs Work on Bitcoin Integration TorrentFreak
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Posted 14 December 2013 - 04:16 PM

I'm somewhat skeptical about that. Aside from the question wether it ever becomes popular (implemented in other clients and accepted/used by the users) I do have the feeling that if any money is changing hands, it will flow into the wrong ones for the wrong reasons. Although it's a tricky topic.

I don't think it will ever make it into eMule, but maybe a mod is going to try it out. If nothing else it sure is interesting.

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Posted 06 January 2015 - 08:31 PM

View PostSome Support, on 14 December 2013 - 06:16 PM, said:

I'm somewhat skeptical about that. Aside from the question wether it ever becomes popular (implemented in other clients and accepted/used by the users) I do have the feeling that if any money is changing hands, it will flow into the wrong ones for the wrong reasons. Although it's a tricky topic.

I don't think it will ever make it into eMule, but maybe a mod is going to try it out. If nothing else it sure is interesting.


I agree.
And to further expand on the arguemtns on the side of caution I have to state that in my opinion it is diametrically opposed to the very idea of filesharing and net neutrality.
Don't mix money and hobby. The internet simply do not need files that badly.
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Posted 17 June 2015 - 03:37 PM

No need for bitcoins ... just provide MUCH better directory sharing from the fellows that want to download my 4TB drive and decline to share their directories. Better yet, give me a way to block them.
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Posted 05 May 2018 - 10:10 PM

Does anyone want reconsider this feature?
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Posted 02 June 2018 - 10:24 AM

I think that having a (short) blockchain-like would be interesting to assign global credit. (as the blockchain is a distributed consistent database) But cash? No.
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Posted 02 June 2018 - 11:26 AM

View Postpier4r, on 02 June 2018 - 09:24 PM, said:

I think that having a (short) blockchain-like would be interesting to assign global credit. (as the blockchain is a distributed consistent database) But cash? No.

Blockchain as in permanent record of your history of downloading? I'm sure that would be a desirable path for anti-piracy people to follow. Maybe this is really, really a bad idea.

Wasn't getting files off the internet using file sharing closely associated with the word 'free'?

I suspect somebody is wanting to make some money from piracy - a conflict of interest I suspect a lot of old file-sharers would not want to happen.
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Posted 09 December 2018 - 05:59 AM

It is all too easy to fool people into downloading trash.

Right now some idiot has found a large of book titles packaged them up as a rar file and uploaded duplicates named for each n every title. To the point that a good percentage of my search results are these worthless 5.51MB files.

Hate to encourage that sort of thing more so the question has to be how do you intend to police the payments?
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Posted 18 May 2021 - 01:44 PM

View Postpainlord2k, on 06 May 2018 - 09:10 AM, said:

Does anyone want reconsider this feature?
Imagine, in hindsight, if this feature had been implemented and you had a few coins just 'sittin round'...
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