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Sources Found Via Kad ? I doubt it B)

Poll: Ever Seen Sources Found by Kad ? (29 member(s) have cast votes)

Ever Seen Sources Found by Kad ?

  1. Ahhhhh YES, and ALWAYS!!! (16 votes [55.17%])

    Percentage of vote: 55.17%

  2. Errrrr YES, but not so many times!!! (9 votes [31.03%])

    Percentage of vote: 31.03%

  3. Oooops NO, I've always got back luck!!! (4 votes [13.79%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.79%

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#1 User is offline   Pretenderyeh 

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Posted 03 February 2004 - 06:56 PM

donno if it's better posted in Kad subforum, but hey, whatever ? it's also a whining B)
here's my Q: anyone ever got any source via Kad ?
u can check ur statics page, there's a column described how sources were found.
since 0.40a (can't recall which version exactly tho), i've never seen numbers other than '0' there ;)


Edit: darn typo ;)

This post has been edited by Pretenderyeh: 03 February 2004 - 08:06 PM

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Posted 03 February 2004 - 07:14 PM

Yes, I did.

When I add a new file, half of the sources found are by Kad, other via server. After a while naturally about 90% are by source exchange, but that's how emule works. So for me, servers aren't really needed anymore.

According to the stats 73% source exchange, 5% server, 3.5% kad.

That again shows, source exchange is the most important thing and kad and server are only needed for the first few sources. The benefit of kad over server is that you can also find sources for files that are very rare as eventually you will ask every kad client if he has that file other than via server where it might happen that a source is hid from you forever (if he's on a server not in your list and also is the only source so SE can't help).

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#3 User is offline   Andu 

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Posted 03 February 2004 - 07:19 PM

Depends how popular the file is and which network you connect to first. If you are connected first to kad you will see lots of clients being found by kad.

Well of course source exchange is the dominating way the clients are found :-k.

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#4 User is offline   Pretenderyeh 

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Posted 03 February 2004 - 08:02 PM

bUR, on Feb 3 2004, 07:14 PM, said:

When I add a new file, half of the sources found are by Kad, other via server. After a while naturally about 90% are by source exchange, but that's how emule works. So for me, servers aren't really needed anymore.
According to the stats 73% source exchange, 5% server, 3.5% kad.

oooops then i guess i should check the Kad part src in my mod (or in Morph? :P)

Andu said:

Depends how popular the file is and which network you connect to first. If you are connected first to kad you will see lots of clients being found by kad.
Well of course source exchange is the dominating way the clients are found .

i've tried to download some files with popular keywords like s*x, f*ck, which all got hundreds of sources in search tab,
but still no luck, when i download these files and connect to Kad only, not a single source shown after hours ;)

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Posted 03 February 2004 - 08:08 PM

I think the issue is just the way kademlia finds files. It takes longer till the results can be returned therefore you are more likely to find sources via ed2k. If the sources are really rare and/or located on some obscure server it is more likely to find them via kademlia.
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#6 User is offline   bUR 

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Posted 03 February 2004 - 08:12 PM

Yes, I think it's like Andu says, I download rather rare files (fansubbed anime mostly) and with those I get these Kad results.
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Posted 03 February 2004 - 10:12 PM

I have the same experience. For rare files you will find very often sources first with kademlia.

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Posted 04 February 2004 - 02:31 PM

For very rare files I have trouble with only Kademlia, but all other things work just as good.
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Posted 04 February 2004 - 02:36 PM

Well the problem with your very rare file currently is that there are only few users on kad so far. Once all eMule clients make the transition your search results for very rare files will be far better with kad. Only problem then will be if those very rare files are released by a non eMule client.
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Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die,
One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.


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Posted 16 February 2004 - 10:35 PM

fellas here i go again :P

i've done a test yesterday, i downloaded official 0.41b.29 binaries, extracted it to a new dir and exec emule.
Kad bootstrap from my another computer, Kad status was "Open", then i searched sources via Kad, there were plenty, so far so good :flowers:
later on i downloaded the most popular files, left emule running and went to bed, the next day i got up, guess what? all files were still in red ;)

to the conclusion, i've got no problem doin' my Kad searchin' but big problem with Kad source-findin'
well, i guess i'm still not lucky enough then :xgrin:


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Edit: there are always some typo waitin' for me :P

This post has been edited by Pretenderyeh: 16 February 2004 - 10:38 PM

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