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Bypassing Isp's P2p Control :-)

#1 User is offline   heffeque 

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Posted 06 January 2006 - 12:31 PM

leuk_he, on Jan 6 2006, 01:51 PM, said:

heffeque, on Jan 5 2006, 07:54 PM, said:

I've noticed that webcaché bypasses that problem because it's html, but most of the traffic isn't webcaché. Would it be possible to add something so that it'll transmit in html instead of regular emule packets?

If you start a new topic about it (or continue in the feature request area) I can explain it to you. this is not the proper place.

Ok, that's that. I suppose that it wouldn't be an easy thing to do because off all the consecuences. Only people with emules supporting html transactions would be able to do it by html and I know that doing it by html has it's losses because of all the extra useless info it sends. Either way, wouldn't it be great if there were an option that said: "Use html between clients when supported" or something similar?
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Posted 06 January 2006 - 12:50 PM

heffeque, on Jan 6 2006, 01:31 PM, said:

leuk_he, on Jan 6 2006, 01:51 PM, said:

heffeque, on Jan 5 2006, 07:54 PM, said:

I've noticed that webcaché bypasses that problem because it's html, but most of the traffic isn't webcaché. Would it be possible to add something so that it'll transmit in html instead of regular emule packets?

If you start a new topic about it (or continue in the feature request area) I can explain it to you. this is not the proper place.

Ok, that's that. I suppose that it wouldn't be an easy thing to do because off all the consecuences. Only people with emules supporting html transactions would be able to do it by html and I know that doing it by html has it's losses because of all the extra useless info it sends. Either way, wouldn't it be great if there were an option that said: "Use html between clients when supported" or something similar?
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First some links....
http://forum.emule-p...showtopic=96664
http://forum.emule-p...showtopic=94200
http://forum.emule-p...showtopic=88449
http://forum.emule-p...showtopic=76351
http://forum.emule-p...showtopic=69626

But i am sure you are familiar with the isssues.

Encoding all the emule traffic in http (like msn messager is able to ) is possible. But is also possble for isp's to still detect p2p traffic due to the nature of p2p (many concurrent connctions to dsl ip ranges). And if the wrapping of traffic in html got popular the isp are able to detect the nature of the traffic also (webcaceh urls look like host:/;encrypted_data/data). Fighting isp with that is not the solution. (see also the stikcy in feature request)

Wrapping all traffic has an extra advantage: you would be able to run emule from behind a proxy. that would help all the proxies users. I spend some though on it, but i think it is too much effort for me to implement it. Even webcache uses only html wrapped packages for the data, the other traffic is still native.

If you want to make a webcache implementation that wraps ALL emule traffic you are free to try. But make sure you main target is to pass proxy's or you might turn very disappointed.
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Posted 08 January 2006 - 04:30 AM

Thanks for the info and the links. :)
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