Full Version: All Riaa/mpaa Legal Problem - Talk Here. (7/28/03)
so if i put up a file with same length/hash as their file on which i have the copyright, i could actually blame them for downloading it?
| QUOTE (Silix @ Sep 26 2003, 07:05 PM) |
I'm curious to know if the e-mule network is being nailed by the :devil:RIAA at all--I'm aware that Kazaa and other similar p2p networks are being attacked, but I was wondering if we're at risk on e-mule at all?  |
in answer to this question:
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It appears that some companies are working against copyright fraud, i just recieved an email from my ISP with the following attached message:
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Seems like a copy of emule thats been modified to automatically generate reports :/
| QUOTE (illusion11 @ Sep 16 2003, 05:02 AM) |
| Hello all, i am using an ISP in Canada, and today i got a email from my ISP stating that i have been sharing copy righted materials in emule. It listed a symantec product as something that i have been sharing. I understand that Universal and the RIAA are out to catch people sharing movies and music...but software?? Any clues anyone?? |
Could you tell me what you did after you got the e-mail from your ISP?
just simply remove the file or you did something else such as reply the e-mail to your ISP?
| QUOTE (FrostyCoolSlug @ Oct 7 2003, 04:29 PM) | ||||||
in answer to this question:
Seems like a copy of emule thats been modified to automatically generate reports :/ |
Gee wiz, another eMule P2P'er caught by Universal again.
Looks like eMule is under attack, too.
| QUOTE (drorsdd @ Aug 15 2003, 02:14 PM) |
| from the EFF: "Contact your Congressional Representative and demand that Congress hold immediate hearings on ways to save P2P technology and file-sharing while ensuring that artists get paid." only in america ,  |
No. Only in Canada. In Canada downloading (though not yet public sharing) and private copying of music is perfectly legal. There is a small (few cents) tax on blank recording media that goes to the record industry.
I'm glad the DMCA came out. The United States government violated the fundamental first principle of leadership. This leadership principle is valid whether you are a parent or the President. That principle is, never make a rule which you know will not be obeyed. The number of file sharing users is just too high. The momentum is huge, and the RIAA won't be able to stop it. The more draconian things get, the more electronic "civil disobedience" there will be. There will have to be fundamental changes in the way copyright is handled in the near future. Very fundamental. Canada's copyright law is a step in the right direction. I don't see anything similar happening in the United States, though, until blood has been drawn. It's not at that point yet, but give it a few years and it will be. Someone print this out and post it on a bulletin board - there will come a time in your country where blood is spilled over copyright laws and the fight against the restriction of the exchange of information. The laws and enforcement of them will become more draconian - and as the internet becomes more and more necesary to daily life, the existing DMCA itself becomes more draconian without a word in it changing. It becomes similar to the RIAA stopping your car and then impounding it if there's a coppied tape or CD in the glove box. And as the consequences of existing and new laws become more and more harsh, there will be more and more ressentment until that resentment finds a leader and coalesces into a united force. Mark my words, within ten years blood will be spilled over this issue.
It saddens me to know that the government there is so serving of the high dollar-value lobby groups, that there will have to be blood spilt before there is significant reform.
I hope what I have outlined will not happen. But I don't believe it will be avoided.
Forgive me if this sounds like it is American bashing... but I am more and more glad every day that I live up here.
Just received a cease & desist letter from Comcast. I was using Emule 0.30b using zonealarm firewall, ipfilter.dat and being very cautious and particular in what I download. Didn't matter, the MPAA snagged me. Emule is definitely vulnerable and if you know anything about the inner workings of networking, you'll know that there are NO protections or things you can do to remain hidden. Although the MPAA don't plan on starting lawsuits with individuals....that's not the point. Point is, do you want high speed access or dial up? If you answered the former, ANY, I mean ANY P2P software is vulnerable....at least for now. Feeling bummed right now and uh....vulnerable. Either way, I'm saying goodbye to EMULE and P2P sharing because I want to keep my service. Two strikes and you're out! 
What did they catch you on?
Not allowed to say. But what I can divulge is that it was a DVD screener....not something that was just released in the theatres. This is evidence that the MPAA is not just targeting newly released movies, but DVD's that are about to be released. I've also read in numerous other newsgroups that software and gaming companies are hiring these piracy scouting companies as well. I just received a return phone call from Comcast (number was listed in the letter) I asked what I need to do other than remove the content and from my interpretation, I came to the conclusion that this letter was very much like a warning notice from a traffic cop. Two strikes and you're out. That kind of thing. I feel a lot better now. As stated before, don't fall into the trap of actually BELIEVING that firewalls, filters, (no matter who it's from), and techniques will be of any use. They aren't....hence my postings! Don't take my word for it, ask a seasoned network engineer.
| QUOTE (hyuk1 @ Oct 13 2003, 12:21 AM) |
| Just received a cease & desist letter from Comcast. I was using Emule 0.30b using zonealarm firewall, ipfilter.dat and being very cautious and particular in what I download. Didn't matter, the MPAA snagged me. Emule is definitely vulnerable and if you know anything about the inner workings of networking, you'll know that there are NO protections or things you can do to remain hidden. Although the MPAA don't plan on starting lawsuits with individuals....that's not the point. Point is, do you want high speed access or dial up? If you answered the former, ANY, I mean ANY P2P software is vulnerable....at least for now. Feeling bummed right now and uh....vulnerable. Either way, I'm saying goodbye to EMULE and P2P sharing because I want to keep my service. Two strikes and you're out! |
Well, it's a telltale sign the IP blacklist is out of date!!!
*WARNING, PEOPLE ARE REQUIRED TO CHECK THIS INCIDENT OUT.
A PERSON WAS CAUGHT BY THE MPAA, EVEN WITH THE IP BLACKLIST.*
I'm going to set up a news section on my website at:
https://rjarrrpcgp2000.zapto.org
The Ip blacklist is of no use whatsoever against RIAA, MPAA, BSA, FACT, FAST or any other body at all.
All they have to do is download, EDonkey, Emule, overnet, shareaza or whatever and use it for a short period of time. Search for a file and download a few bytes to verify the file and they can then cite anybody who appears as a source if they so require.
The only way to be safe/sure is NOT to share any copyrighted material at all, that may defeat the "object" of all P2P software, but that is the only way.
How does anyone know that I do not work for any of the bodies referred to above? How does anyone know who anyone on the board works for?
All they have to do is download, EDonkey, Emule, overnet, shareaza or whatever and use it for a short period of time. Search for a file and download a few bytes to verify the file and they can then cite anybody who appears as a source if they so require.
The only way to be safe/sure is NOT to share any copyrighted material at all, that may defeat the "object" of all P2P software, but that is the only way.
How does anyone know that I do not work for any of the bodies referred to above? How does anyone know who anyone on the board works for?
| QUOTE (ofnoaccount @ Oct 14 2003, 10:43 AM) |
| The Ip blacklist is of no use whatsoever against RIAA, MPAA, BSA, FACT, FAST or any other body at all. All they have to do is download, EDonkey, Emule, overnet, shareaza or whatever and use it for a short period of time. Search for a file and download a few bytes to verify the file and they can then cite anybody who appears as a source if they so require. The only way to be safe/sure is NOT to share any copyrighted material at all, that may defeat the "object" of all P2P software, but that is the only way. How does anyone know that I do not work for any of the bodies referred to above? How does anyone know who anyone on the board works for? |
If we find out you are working for them, there is a majorly high chance you will get banned. Understood.
The sons of b****** could not pay me enough.
I would rather "throw my love spuds on the barbie" (Red Dwarf)
I would rather "throw my love spuds on the barbie" (Red Dwarf)
As I've stated before, just ask any network guru in the place you work about the usefulness of filters and you'll know that anyone can be tracked. I mean....how do you think Emule knows to send the packets of information to? The information has to be sent to a certain IP and the developers who work for the MPAA and RIAA most probably took apart emule and discovered how to pull IP data in a very simplified way! If you read forums within emule, and broadband reports, you'll see that it's just a matter of when you'll be caught, not if you're caught. Luckily this was a first warning for me and I still have my connection. Oh...did I mention that I'm a PC Guru and somewhat of a network guru as well? Let's just put it this way, the MPAA and RIAA DO NOT want a huge population of users of P2P software. They want to prevent a Napster like explosion!
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| Let's just put it this way, the MPAA and RIAA DO NOT want a huge population of users of P2P software. They want to prevent a Napster like explosion! |
Well i think they are abit late on that one
The way I see it, there's no such thing as anonymity on the Internet anymore. Or, there is, just incredibly rare (and hard or expensive to accomplish) these days.A lot of ISPs in the United States are in kahoots with the FBI--or, at least, with all of these lame anti-privacy laws coming from the Bush Administration, are required to be. Anyone ever heard of the Carnivore box? http://www.fbi.gov/hq/lab/carnivore/carnivore.htm
Both Kazaa and eMule act simply as connection points for clients. This allows everyone to basically end up at the same place--like meeting at a street corner or someone's house, and ANYONE can show up. From there, it's based on the user's choices--not the server.
Your ISPs an easily install and run filters for their clients--they can simply use software that monitors your IP address, and particularly certain ports (which is where ALL P2P programs suck since a port is a solid ID for what type of software is being used.) If they've figured that port 4662 or 4672 is open (you can easily figure this stuff out with a port scanner,) they can from there watch for headers that identify files being transferred, and break it down to the filename, generally figuring out what you've transferred. I'm not sure if anyone (ISPs) does it other than the FBI, but you could even capture and record data, then restore the files to provide "proof".
Wonderful world we live in when everyone's b!tching about money all the time.
I would suppose that the best things are still IRC and FTP servers when you're still a poor-ass American that can't afford all of this crap anyway. It's the old traditional method of file swapping--been around since before all the bullsquat started with Napster (RIAA/MPAA/Software Cos got PO'ed when it became easy...) If you have to, go download mIRC and make some file-swapping-friends online.
Fine Print: If you're about to copy my IP address, erase this thread, sue me, arrest me, track me down, tell me I'm wrong, etc., then please continue reading: I do not condone illegal piracy or copyright infringement. The above was written for informational & educational purposes only. (Oh, I'm very broke, too--no assets to suck out of my wallet!)
Just like this, could be a stupid idea, but what about having fake names for the files we want to share ?
Then won' t be able to proof seriously that "My.Holidays.In.Brittania.avi" is Matrix or something like that , No ?
Please excuse me if i lame or if i can' t write properly
Then won' t be able to proof seriously that "My.Holidays.In.Brittania.avi" is Matrix or something like that , No ?
Please excuse me if i lame or if i can' t write properly
Good idea..hard to place..
we have no idea who is with the RIAA and who isn't..
or who might sell us out...
whatever naming convention we come up wtih, they could break it easy..
just be surfing message boards, etc
if it wasn't public knowledge what was what..who would know what to download??
we have no idea who is with the RIAA and who isn't..
or who might sell us out...
whatever naming convention we come up wtih, they could break it easy..
just be surfing message boards, etc
if it wasn't public knowledge what was what..who would know what to download??
| QUOTE (Mrlupin @ Oct 18 2003, 05:39 PM) |
| Just like this, could be a stupid idea, but what about having fake names for the files we want to share ? Then won' t be able to proof seriously that "My.Holidays.In.Brittania.avi" is Matrix or something like that , No ? |
Sounds like a good idea
start a download then rename to anything that has a meaning only to you 
. The hash is still the same as the original so you can share without problem. That works even if you are the original releaser, of course it would also kill any chance of finding a file by searching 
.
Some new shit from the bad guys: I/my ISP got a letter because of dl'ing a movie file, but I did not upload a single byte! Dammit 
I use emule and comcast but I dont have an email address registered with my isp what if they cant send an email do they send snail mail. Also all you people that got notices what type of file were you downloading ?? dvd-screener? or what
| QUOTE (vb5prog @ Oct 22 2003, 05:56 AM) |
| I use emule and comcast but I dont have an email address registered with my isp what if they cant send an email do they send snail mail. Also all you people that got notices what type of file were you downloading ?? dvd-screener? or what |
You will get snail mail, asking you to contact them within a certain period of time, if you do not respond they reserve the right to terminate your connection.
Yup, screeners of new recently released films!
this ones simple don't download movies....I'd pay $6 to save an hour of downloading, as well as being able to see it on a MUCH bigger screen.
I am not sure if this was written anywhere or asked before...but how the heck do you rename files in E-mule that are currently being download... there is no such thing as "rename" command when you right-click on the file in the "shared files" or "transfers" tabs.... 
It's located under "Show File Details - File Name".
oh... thx
thx
Apparently all the guys that were "busted" were dling recent movies , but what about progz and games ?
Else a legal trick that might be working.
If releasers adopt a convention , and everybody knows what it is , doesn' t mind , for example matrix is Mtrx or anything known. You go on a website to know which file to dl and you dl it. If any piracy fundation wants to demounstrate the file is the copyrighted media , they will have to dl it , if they do it they will be violating the law right ( except if they buy copyrights lol, matrix film copyright must be about several Millions USD
)? And if they don' t dl it , they won' t be able to proof that it is actually the file.
So emule would be rid of private society cuz they won' t be able to get the copyright in order to legally dl the files, so they won' t have legal evidences.
Rem : What about in France? Has anybody been busted ?
Thx not to flame me cuz i am a noob
Else a legal trick that might be working.
If releasers adopt a convention , and everybody knows what it is , doesn' t mind , for example matrix is Mtrx or anything known. You go on a website to know which file to dl and you dl it. If any piracy fundation wants to demounstrate the file is the copyrighted media , they will have to dl it , if they do it they will be violating the law right ( except if they buy copyrights lol, matrix film copyright must be about several Millions USD
)? And if they don' t dl it , they won' t be able to proof that it is actually the file.So emule would be rid of private society cuz they won' t be able to get the copyright in order to legally dl the files, so they won' t have legal evidences.
Rem : What about in France? Has anybody been busted ?
Thx not to flame me cuz i am a noob
You should all just move to Holland, cuz downloading isn´t illegal here (yet)
| QUOTE (drorsdd @ Jul 31 2003, 04:20 PM) |
maybe this is realy dumb (dont get all over me now  )but what stops the RIAA to get their own emule/edonkey server (anyone can host a server right ?) and by that get all the ip's.shared files lists of all the users that are connected to this server--->sue everybody. is this possible? or is there something i dont understand?  |
Technically they could do that but it's also against the law... It's called entrapment...
I believe entrapment can only be done by law enforcement agencies...
for a private individual (or entity) to do so is not against the law (much like a private individual can search your place without the need for a warrant etc)
for a private individual (or entity) to do so is not against the law (much like a private individual can search your place without the need for a warrant etc)
No, I believe it applies to everyone, however I could be wrong...
It's like a guy on the street corner selling crack, but he's going to jot down your name and rat you out after he's made the sale. In the end, he's still commited a crime in one form or another...
Damn posers...
Check this link out... Read scenario 5...
P2P Entrapment
sorry I posted this message in the wrong section before I saw this thread
just wondering if any of u comcast costumers got this
I received a Notice of Action under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act
it listed a divx I had on my computer about a month ago
it listed the exact name of the file, emule as the protocol, timestamp
it scared the crap out of me
the letter basically said that I need to delete that infringed work from my computer or it will end my service
am I going to be screwed? am I going to be on MPAA's hit list?
how can I prevent this from happening again?
I usually burn out a dl right after I've finished dl it, it's only on my computer during the duration of the dl, the really creepy part is that the time stamp on the letter
is the exact date I finished the download. looks like these bastards waited for har evidence
does the new ver of emule provide better privacy/security?
just wondering if any of u comcast costumers got this
I received a Notice of Action under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act
it listed a divx I had on my computer about a month ago
it listed the exact name of the file, emule as the protocol, timestamp
it scared the crap out of me
the letter basically said that I need to delete that infringed work from my computer or it will end my service
am I going to be screwed? am I going to be on MPAA's hit list?
how can I prevent this from happening again?
I usually burn out a dl right after I've finished dl it, it's only on my computer during the duration of the dl, the really creepy part is that the time stamp on the letter
is the exact date I finished the download. looks like these bastards waited for har evidence
does the new ver of emule provide better privacy/security?
Yes, everyone is that is pretty much DLing a Universal movie is getting it... There is no safe P2P... They pretty much uploaded a chunk from you when you were DLing the file... So they just logged your IP and bam they go rat you out to Comcast...
Just say you didnt do it and you dont have it... Clear cut and simple... Now they might cut your service but all you gotta do is call them up and talk to them... They'll just tell you dont do it again and thats it... If not, just go get DSL...
MPAA isn't suing anybody at the moment... They're just using scare tactics... Dont put that behind them though... Never know... Just dont download if you want to be totally safe... Sucks huh?
the movie was actually by Paramount
but so far my connection is still up and running and I've emailed my ISP
we'll see what happens
I'll need to get peerguardian up and running ASAP
but so far my connection is still up and running and I've emailed my ISP
we'll see what happens
I'll need to get peerguardian up and running ASAP
Well from what I understand many of the forums I've been reading about is that when people intially respond they'll cut the connection and they you have to call your ISP. They'll just say delete it and cut it out and dont get caught again...
As for PeerGuardian thats just false sense of security... I've been reading a lot of posts which people have it and they're still getting the letters...
No matter what in the end at this point in time, P2P is not safe... The person that's uploading to you still needs an IP to send to and whoever is downloading off of you needs an IP to download from... MPAA whores are running modded versions of Emule just like RIAA whores are using modded versions of Kazaa to snatch IPs...
| QUOTE (DVSAZN @ Nov 11 2003, 11:51 PM) |
| It's like a guy on the street corner selling crack, but he's going to jot down your name and rat you out after he's made the sale. In the end, he's still commited a crime in one form or another... |
Yes, he's still guilty of a crime for selling you the crack, but its not entrapment...
(think, police informants, or people who make deals after they are arrested to give evidence of a crime against someone else for a lower sentence, heck even undercover cops can sell you drugs and turn you in and its not entrapment)
If you initiate the transaction without prompting from the cop, then its not entrapment.. I think.... I'm not american so your law might be slightly different, I do watch lots of law and order though and most of your laws seem more or less the same as ours.
WTF?? I hardly ever use Emule since my first Comcast/DMCA letter, but the other day I downloaded something and today I received my SECOND letter. F**K!! Don't know what's going to happen, but if comcast drops me as a customer they'll be losing $600 a year..... Whatever!
this is an old post of mine that got no reply in features forum.
Maybe here there will be a comment or suggestion about it :
many download sites, ftps & programs use legal notice before accessing them.
you can implement a legal user notice of some sort like :
"dont download from me unless you have the legal rights for the file..."
"this user is in no way responsible..."
"if you are in any way connected to goverment..."
the notice can be placed in the client details you give to each client.
the notice can be seen in the client details tabs.
there should be a default notice writen by the emule team but olso the ability to
change it or to not use it at all (. to prevent unintended notice the user didnt ment
to).
also, by default the notice will not be used. only when you permited it in
preferences or by the installer option for the user prompt and most important
is the ablity of the client to recoginze default notice and then to choose
automaticaly to connect to that user. That way you wont tangle with binding
messages by evil users.
Maybe here there will be a comment or suggestion about it :
many download sites, ftps & programs use legal notice before accessing them.
you can implement a legal user notice of some sort like :
"dont download from me unless you have the legal rights for the file..."
"this user is in no way responsible..."
"if you are in any way connected to goverment..."
the notice can be placed in the client details you give to each client.
the notice can be seen in the client details tabs.
there should be a default notice writen by the emule team but olso the ability to
change it or to not use it at all (. to prevent unintended notice the user didnt ment
to).
also, by default the notice will not be used. only when you permited it in
preferences or by the installer option for the user prompt and most important
is the ablity of the client to recoginze default notice and then to choose
automaticaly to connect to that user. That way you wont tangle with binding
messages by evil users.
| QUOTE (kellinjar @ Nov 15 2003, 12:02 PM) |
| Yes, he's still guilty of a crime for selling you the crack, but its not entrapment... (think, police informants, or people who make deals after they are arrested to give evidence of a crime against someone else for a lower sentence, heck even undercover cops can sell you drugs and turn you in and its not entrapment) If you initiate the transaction without prompting from the cop, then its not entrapment.. I think.... I'm not american so your law might be slightly different, I do watch lots of law and order though and most of your laws seem more or less the same as ours. |
Actually your example is more of the line of plea bargining... That's like more along the line of I got caught so I'm ratting people out... I guess I should of worded it better...
If a guy is purposely selling crack on a corner to encriminate you by turning you in then that would be entrapment... However, like I said before... I could be wrong... I mean if this wouldn't be considered entrapment then every do gooder would be doing some kind of setup to arrest people... So entrapment has to apply to everyone I'm assuming... However, I COULD BE WRONG...
You are correct on the fact that if the cop didnt initiate it then it's not entrapment... Rolling back to the fact of what that other guy said about them setting up servers or something... If the RIAA & MPAA is setting up a server with a gold mine of programs, songs, movies, etc and saying hey everybody come download off of us and then turning around and suing us... Now that's entrapment...
BRNFAC - Dude, I totally didn't understand your post... All I picked up was something about putting up some notice...
Youy just dont get it do you ???
It IS possible for a corporate company to instal emule/kazaa then look for its own software on YOUR PC's,u gotta laugh really,they use ur own greed against you ffs.
So lets say they search for Call Of Duty (bin/iso or exe),do a search,find the files and when they find the files they find you OK!!! got it.
Somehow they manage to get ip from god knows where then inform YOUR ISP as well as sending u a nice letter about your sharing actions.
Maybe move your dl's you shouldnt have to another folder would work or delete them after putting them onto cdr ??
But DO NOT leave them in the same folder to share ffs or it could be you !!!
This info can also be obtained by a partial dl or a renamed file so dont think changing the filename will work coz it dosent......spoofing will not work either
If you really want the software/game then go buy it like i just bought Call Of Duty today :-))))
It IS possible for a corporate company to instal emule/kazaa then look for its own software on YOUR PC's,u gotta laugh really,they use ur own greed against you ffs.
So lets say they search for Call Of Duty (bin/iso or exe),do a search,find the files and when they find the files they find you OK!!! got it.
Somehow they manage to get ip from god knows where then inform YOUR ISP as well as sending u a nice letter about your sharing actions.
Maybe move your dl's you shouldnt have to another folder would work or delete them after putting them onto cdr ??
But DO NOT leave them in the same folder to share ffs or it could be you !!!
This info can also be obtained by a partial dl or a renamed file so dont think changing the filename will work coz it dosent......spoofing will not work either
If you really want the software/game then go buy it like i just bought Call Of Duty today :-))))
| QUOTE (Mr Cautious @ Nov 16 2003, 04:20 PM) |
| Youy just dont get it do you ??? It IS possible for a corporate company to instal emule/kazaa then look for its own software on YOUR PC's,u gotta laugh really,they use ur own greed against you ffs. So lets say they search for Call Of Duty (bin/iso or exe),do a search,find the files and when they find the files they find you OK!!! got it. Somehow they manage to get ip from god knows where then inform YOUR ISP as well as sending u a nice letter about your sharing actions. Maybe move your dl's you shouldnt have to another folder would work or delete them after putting them onto cdr ?? But DO NOT leave them in the same folder to share ffs or it could be you !!! This info can also be obtained by a partial dl or a renamed file so dont think changing the filename will work coz it dosent......spoofing will not work either If you really want the software/game then go buy it like i just bought Call Of Duty today :-)))) |
Actually you're only partially right... When you are downloading that 600 mb plus file it takes time... Now while all this is happening you are uploading the chunks that you've already gotten... So it doesn't take for you to just leave your downloaded files in your shared folder...
We never said that its not possible for them to install Kazza/Emule and go look for their own stuff, because that is indeed what RIAA/MPAA is doing... Their just using modded versions to download off of you and logg your IP in the process...
All we said was it is not possible for them to setup a server and push their own songs, software, movies, etc. and turn around and push lawsuits against everyone because that would be entrapment...
Dude, did you even read any of the posts on this thread? Or did you just decide to jump in and throw in your own two cents??
| QUOTE (brnfac @ Nov 15 2003, 11:52 PM) |
| many download sites, ftps & programs use legal notice before accessing them. you can implement a legal user notice of some sort like : |
These don't work. There's nothing giving you a right to do something illegal just because you've put up a legal notice with no connection to the law.
Also, PeerGuardian isn't safe at all. Maybe it makes you a teeny bit more safe, but I'm pretty sure RIAA use IP ranges of common networks. It's enough that they check from an AOL connected computer and voila.
Finally, renaming files probably don't work since it has actually been said before that they're using file hashes / checksums to find downloaderes with. They aren't that stupid to go for just names. If they find you having a file called "my mommy.jpg" when it's actually some artists latest album, all that tells RIAA is that you download copyrighted material and not only that, you know it and try to fool them too.
The next thing I would like to see on Emule is the ability for the MPAA/RIAA be kept off our azz... We're all here for one reason... To get free shiet... 
Now anybody that would say otherwise is full of shiet and should be shot on site... Where's my backup??
LET ME BE HEARD....
Now anybody that would say otherwise is full of shiet and should be shot on site... Where's my backup??
LET ME BE HEARD....
hmmm,
if it would be as eaz as you say, there would be no problems
but....
you cant hide ! if you wanna recive data
its the way of life.
*lol*
if it would be as eaz as you say, there would be no problems
but....
you cant hide
! if you wanna recive data its the way of life.
*lol*
And also,
the dudes how talk about that new motherboard wich first have to encrypt data from HD, ITS BULLSHIT!
The Riaa etc. only index your files and download a few bits to vertify and thats all.
They dont need to take your computer and analyse it.
bey
the dudes how talk about that new motherboard wich first have to encrypt data from HD, ITS BULLSHIT!
The Riaa etc. only index your files and download a few bits to vertify and thats all.
They dont need to take your computer and analyse it.
bey
| QUOTE (Shareoholik @ Nov 17 2003, 11:43 AM) |
| The Riaa etc. only index your files and download a few bits to vertify and thats all. |
They don't even dl anything, they just check, if you dl the file and send you one of this nice emails...
Sorry my reply was a bit strange formulated,
i ment:
They only have to look on a server, because all your files are indexed by the server your joining.
bey
i ment:
They only have to look on a server, because all your files are indexed by the server your joining.
bey
Now this sounds better
I think first before the copyright companys try to catch peaople who dowloading, they should try to work on them selves!
Or what do you think how could it bee possible to download a movie before it is in cinema?
Keep sharing
Or what do you think how could it bee possible to download a movie before it is in cinema?
Keep sharing
| QUOTE |
| "Finally, renaming files probably don't work since it has actually been said before that they're using file hashes / checksums to find downloaderes with. They aren't that stupid to go for just names. If they find you having a file called "my mommy.jpg" when it's actually some artists latest album, all that tells RIAA is that you download copyrighted material and not only that, you know it and try to fool them too" |
but what if u did actually thing it was someones mum? and downloaded it and got caught? there should be some type of code used so say it was the matrix u every 1 calls it trix or something but then when somone searching for it they wont find it unless they knew what to search for
yeah but they could use the ed2k links to find out
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