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#21 User is offline   ShadowLord 

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Posted 23 October 2005 - 01:06 AM

birk, on May 11 2004, 07:01 AM, said:

This thread is based on VQB's old thread which is out of date. Since I don't like editing his posts I have made this new one based on his!

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[*]How can I see my credits?
There isn't a simple answer for this one as credits are on a user by user basis rather than a transferable unit. The shortest answer is to compare your total UL to total DL (show in statistics). The higher the ratio of UL to DL the better your credit (but the worse your DL have been). With a specific user you can look in the user details dialog (right-click on another user) and compare your their DL (from you == your UL) with your own DL.

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Remember that the people who support in this forum do it out of their own free will so be nice to them and don't ask questions already answered before because supporters really hate that! Have fun...
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Hi,

I have introduced a lot of my friends to eMule, and I get asked this (and the similar question of "How can I hack emule to give me unlimited credits!?" :-P) almost every time... So I thought I might contribute my answer here for all.. Although it is probably simplistic (and long winded...) and not entirely technically correct! Feel free to shorten/summarize it and use it any way that benefits the eMule community.

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Think of it like you would an accountant in "real life." Your accountant keeps detailed records of every transaction, how much you owe to others, how much they owe to you, et cetera. You can use this information to figure out how much you are owed, and how much you owe--But what happens when your accounting books differ from someone elses? If your accountant says you owe XYZ $100, but XYZ says you owe them $500, who are you going to believe? Your own accountant, of course. Just like XYZ will believe their own data, insisting yours is wrong.

eMule operates much the same way. It does it's own credit accounting, and it will believe what it's own accounting shows, not what any other client tries to tell it. This is why you cannot "hack" eMule to give yourself unlimited credit. You can make eMule think you have more credit with XYZ, but if XYZ's books say you don't, XYZ won't listen to you. Think about it. Do you want your eMule to listen to XYZ if they said they have unlimited credit with you, and can download anything they want from you, without uploading to you?

eMule was not programmed that way, and if it was... It would be work against you, not in your favour. Otherwise, everyone on the network would be able to tell your client you owe them 4326355474546 credits, pay up now! The eMule programmers, in their ultimate wisdom, programmed eMule to do it's own accounting, trust it's own data, and not trust anyone else. This is for your benefit, security, and protection, as well as for everyone else.

This is also why it is difficult to calculate how much credit you have. You can make a guess based on the data your own eMule has collected, but the only way to know for sure how much credit you have with another client is to have access to their accounting data. And it is entirely possible that while you may think you have a certain amount of credit with them, their data may disagree. They will grant you credit based on their own data, not on what you tell them it should be.

The moral of the story is... You can only make a good guess about how much credit you have, on a client-to-client (peer-to-peer) basis, but not network-wide. There is no global credit accounting stored on some special server, every client does it's own accounting.

PS: DO NOT DOWNLOAD ANY eMule THAT CLAIMS UNLIMITED CREDITS! Since the only way to get unlimited credits is to tamper with the other client's data files, and since you do not normally have access to those files, you cannot obtain unlimited credits. Additionally, the eMule source code is publically available as open source. Hundreds of programmers can and have looked over the code, insuring it is reasonably secure against such hacks.

It stands to reason that anyone who has the skill to "hack" eMule would be familiar with these concepts, so why do they offer such a client? To hack YOU! Those hacked clients they offer are either trojans which give them access to your files, or they have hacked accounting files built in that give them unlimited credit with you. There is no benefit in it for you.
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Posted 30 October 2005 - 11:45 AM

What I would like to see enhanced in the first post of this thread is a clear list of the "helpful information" that people should supply when asking for help. The post in the German Support Forum has such a good list that could simply be translated and added here. I am referring to the "So posted ich richtig" post:
http://forum.emule-p...showtopic=40340


The first post in this section is a little vague on what is useful information.

Thanks.
It said: "Insert disk #3 into drive...", but only 2 will fit...?!?
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Posted 21 November 2005 - 02:02 PM

Stoepsel, on Oct 30 2005, 12:45 PM, said:

What I would like to see enhanced in the first post of this thread is a clear list of the "helpful information" that people should supply when asking for help. The post in the German Support Forum has such a good list that could simply be translated and added here. I am referring to the "So posted ich richtig" post:
http://forum.emule-p...showtopic=40340


The first post in this section is a little vague on what is useful information.

Thanks.
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If you translate it I will incorporate it into the first post. :)
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Posted 02 December 2005 - 01:56 PM

Hi everyone
Maybe this can help.

Pc Configuration
-OS.
-internet connection type. (BandWidth, Ex: 1024/320 DSL)
-Modem, Router, Proxy (manufacturer /model)
-Firewall.
-Antivirus.
-Spyware detector.
-Emule Version.

Emule settings (Options tab)
-Dl/Ul capacity.
-Dl/Ul limits.
-Hard limit.
-Max Connection.
-Activate network ¿ED2k, Kad, Both?
-Max. new connection/5 secs.*
-Max half open connection.**
-Ports Tcp/Udp.

* Options>Extended>Max. new connection/5 secs
** Options>Extended>Max half open connection

Emule work
-High ID/LowID.
-Download files (how many)
-Shared files (Idem)
-What server did you connect to? (EX: Donkeyserver 1)
-Found sources. (Statistics>Transfer>Downloads>Session>Found sources)

Bye

This post has been edited by ElChele: 22 April 2006 - 02:26 PM

Posted Image Make your own ipfilter file, and manage fake files. Take in count, You are the best filter for emule.
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Posted 13 December 2005 - 11:31 AM

ElChele, on Dec 2 2005, 01:56 PM, said:

Hi everyone
Maybe this can help.

Pc Configuration
XP SP2-OS.
2mbps DSL-internet connection type. (BandWidth, Ex: 1024/320 DSL)
3com office connect -Modem, Router, Proxy (manufacturer /model)
as above-Firewall.
Trend AV-Antivirus. (I have unloaded this so irrelevant)
none-Spyware detector.
latest 46c -Emule Version. Have reinstalled from another mirror

Emule settings  (Options tab)
      -Dl/Ul capacity. 188 down 23 up (as configured by the wizard)
      -Dl/Ul limits. 169 down 18 up (as configured by the wizard)
      -Hard limit. 400
      -Max Connection. 100
      -Activate network ¿ED2k, Kad, Both?  ED2k only
      -Max. new connection/5 secs.* 20
      -Max half open connection.** 9
      -Ports Tcp/Udp. 4700 TCP 4710 UDP

* Options>Extended>Max. new connection/5 secs
** Options>Extended>Max half open connection

Emule work  unable to connect to any of the donkey or razorback servers
-High ID/LowID.
-Download files (how many)
-Shared files (Idem)
-Witch server did you connect to? (EX: Razorback 2.0)
-Found sources. (Statistics>Transfer>Downloads>Session>Found sources)

Bye
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Posted 13 December 2005 - 11:47 AM

umm, nice quote :huh:

you know that elchele's post is here only to let people give info in their own topics, not in this topic? :-k
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Posted 02 January 2006 - 10:39 PM

hi, and sorry but i've tryied everything but there's something wrong with my emule cuz the first time i've used emule it worked fine but i got some spyware and i've format my disk i've started all over again and now it doesn't work no dowload's. i have windows xp professional and i´m working with spybot microsoft antispyware mcafee and even like this i still have spyware what can i do to make my emule start working. i really need some good advise, and my english is a bit rusty... help, please
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Posted 03 January 2006 - 02:14 AM

This thread is called "read this before starting a new thread"

Please start a new thread :)
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Posted 03 January 2006 - 04:25 PM

That reminds me...

@birk:
Any chance of incorporating ElChele's translation into the main post? Thanks.
It said: "Insert disk #3 into drive...", but only 2 will fit...?!?
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Posted 08 January 2006 - 03:01 PM

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@birk:
Any chance of incorporating ElChele's translation into the main post? Thanks.
:+1: , the post is doing a great job even hidden here

@ ElChele , :) ,

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#31 User is offline   ElChele 

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Posted 14 January 2006 - 10:36 PM

Stoepsel, on Jan 3 2006, 06:25 PM, said:

That reminds me...

@birk:
Any chance of incorporating ElChele's translation into the main post? Thanks.
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That's a good idea :+1:
bye
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Posted 06 February 2006 - 12:15 AM

Maybe some of the not so helpful posts in this thread could be moved somewhere else...
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Posted 11 March 2006 - 12:07 PM

Hi people...I am putting thi post here as suggested by "Tijnenzo", an administrator helper.
Well, suddenly I can not connected to any server anymore, and each line that describes each one of the servers do never change to black color. What happened?
It is so strange cause I´ve been using eMule during almost 2 years, and it never happen before.
Tijnenzo, suggested me to change de "server.met" file. I´ve tried what he´d suggested, but the problem is not solved.
The problem still keep on...always when the program tries a connection with a server, the following answer is shown in the log: "the server XYZ appears to be dead"
So, how could I solve this unexpected and incomprehensible problem. guys?
PS.: The problem is also occurring with other users in the same city. Tks. :confused:
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Posted 11 March 2006 - 01:04 PM

I didn't tell you to go here.

Also stick to the topic you've created, it doesn't help you to post more topics of the same in different places.

Please go back to the original topic.

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Posted 11 March 2006 - 01:52 PM

Tijnenzo, I am so sorry, but I´ve understood exactly this when I´ve read what you!ve written: "Give us the info asked in this link: Requested information!".
What I´ve undestood is that I should give you the information I needed through that link. Sorry. :(
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Posted 07 April 2006 - 09:14 PM

J've a problem to open the port of my router NETGEAR DG834G, J try as for the instruction on web site NETGEAR as follows but my ID is always no good,
Can you help me?
tks
Regole del firewall

Servizi in uscita

# Attiva Nome servizio Azione Utenti LAN Server WAN Registro

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emuleUDP ALLOW always Any Any Always

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emuleTCP ALLOW always Any Any Always
Predefinito Sì Qualsiasi CONSENTI sempre Qualsiasi Qualsiasi Mai



Servizi in ingresso

# Attiva Nome servizio Azione Indirizzo IP server LAN Utenti WAN Registro

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emuleUDP ALLOW always 192.168.0.1 Any Always

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emuleTCP ALLOW always 192.168.0.1 Any Always
Predefinito Sì Qualsiasi BLOCCA sempre Qualsiasi Qualsiasi Corrisponde
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Posted 07 April 2006 - 10:13 PM

This is not a thread to ask specific questions. This thread is meant as a guide on how to post questions properly by providing the right information from the start.

Please repost your question in the appropriate part of the forum. I suggest the "Network & ID related" forum.
It said: "Insert disk #3 into drive...", but only 2 will fit...?!?
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Posted 23 October 2006 - 05:13 PM

HI
I'm new user and I wana to DL photoshop cs2 and corel 12 , but I don't know how...


can someone help me ???? :cry2:
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Posted 23 October 2006 - 05:19 PM

OMFG

What part of "Read this before starting a new thread!, How to get support for Emule!" and the info in the first post, especially the forum rules did you not understand ?

You can read, do you ?
How to setup Emule. A small checklist | Schmu's MuleDoc
P2P is not piracy, it's marketing.
In fact, if your music or movie is NOT being downloaded, you should be WORRIED !
If you can't even give it away for free, how do you expect to sell it, stupid ?


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Post icon  Posted 01 November 2006 - 10:50 PM

hello :thumbup: :respect:

View Postjotabe13, on Sep 2 2005, 10:07 PM, said:

Can you speak portuguese?

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