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Feature: Zz Powershare Powershare without unsharing any files!

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Posted 12 March 2004 - 11:51 PM

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ZZ PowerShare: Powershare files without having to unshare any files!
You can set files to be powershared by right clicking them in the shared files list and selecting "Powershare" -> "Set powersharing". Files that have powershare activated will be uploaded a 100% of the time, if there are people trying to download them. It doesn't matter how many other files you share or download. This makes it possible for you to release files efficiently, and still download files normally. If the files with release priority doesn't use all the bandwidth, normal shared files are uploaded. This means that you won't have to unshare everything that you are not releasing. This gives more sources for files on the network, and make sure the allotted upload bandwidth are always used a 100% efficiently to release your files.


Post questions about this feature in this thread.

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Posted 16 March 2004 - 12:56 PM

Hi zz B)

Are you thinking about an automatic (activation and deactivation) powershare mode ?
Something like in previous Pawcio or current Roman2K : with adjustable limits for complete and uncomplete files (ie. 50 and 20 complete src max in these mods).

Firt limits prevent people to abuse the credit system by setting all files they download in PS mode.
And limits can help sharing : for people who share a lot of new files at the same times, lowering the max limit below 50 allow to be sure that ALL file don't stay in powershare status all the time (and to choose the 'time', by choosing the number of src, the files will keep this status).
For example, in my case, for the kind of files i share, i disable powershare as soon as 15-20 sources are available. Because my BW is not very strong i have to divide it carefully to be sure it is not used by just a little part of my shares.
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Posted 16 March 2004 - 02:38 PM

I'm considering it. If I implement something like this, it will be completely controlled by the user. No mandatory limits.

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Posted 16 March 2004 - 03:03 PM

Good news :)

By the way, your latest ZZUL rocks :+1:
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Posted 16 March 2004 - 04:57 PM

i like the power share as i dount need to unshare my files to download files yes it does use the creadt system a bit but i leave my files on power share untill i have uploaded the files 2x (after i have downloaded )

and coes the stats reset any way when the file goes from temp to incomming (i perfer it doing it any way just to think of it) i know i am helping uploading a full file 2x
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Posted 16 March 2004 - 09:22 PM

zz, on Mar 16 2004, 02:38 PM, said:

I'm considering it. If I implement something like this, it will be completely controlled by the user. No mandatory limits.

Hi, I made my own PS limit and there are no mandatory limits :). Look at it :).
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Posted 16 March 2004 - 09:55 PM

Yes, Roman2K PS is very good :)
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Posted 06 June 2004 - 08:56 PM

what is the different of a powershare very low and a powershare release ?
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Posted 06 June 2004 - 09:13 PM

All powershared files goes before the non powershared files. But among all powershared files, it tries to send the high prio files before the low prio files.

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Post icon  Posted 06 June 2004 - 09:20 PM

zz, on Mar 16 2004, 03:38 PM, said:

The Powershare Automated Mode by the number of Source = I'm considering it.

and for this feature, a implement is planified ? :-k (like MotteDeTerre, i love this system !)
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Posted 08 July 2004 - 05:59 AM

Hi ZZ

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This means that you won't have to unshare everything that you are not releasing. This gives more sources for files on the network, and make sure the allotted upload bandwidth are always used a 100% efficiently to release your files.

Well, if powershare would be used only this way, it would be great.
Unfortunatly its a mighty tool for trafficshaper too.

So I want to ask, why not powershare only complete files?

I'd love love this feature been modified this way!
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Posted 08 July 2004 - 07:49 AM

Would be cool to be able to powershare rare chunks, but I'm afraid that's too much work to do, and how would you monitor rare chunks anyway? (wouldn't that strain the server)

zz, I think you should see other implementations of powerhsare and make your own as good as possible, and then propose it for the official :D
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Posted 09 July 2004 - 10:54 PM

well, as others here, i'm Really Happy to see that zz have worked a lot with the official emule team to make 0.43x, and really happy to see some of the zz's features have been add to official emule version :clap: :+1:

But (there is a but :P ) ... I would LOVE to see powershare in official emule, but i'm still not sure it would be good to do a such thing

my thought : I believe this feature can be "dangerous" if not well used
I believe some guys will put comments on big, known and well shared files like "put the file in powershare !"....to download the file faster... -_-
and i believe newbies will do it so !... on big, known and well shared files ! <_<
so others rare files that are just "normaly shared" by thoses newbies will never been share anymore :angry: :angry:

i really believe this is a dangerous feature if not well used... and if everybody (in particulary newbies Or assholes) has it

and, I suppose this is ("one of" ?) the reason why official team still didn't add it to emule


imho ;)

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Post icon  Posted 09 July 2004 - 11:32 PM

Hi ZZ / Madly Mad / All :)

Well you do have some valid points there. But I myself love this feature and use it. ;)

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i really believe this is a dangerous feature if not well used... and if everybody (in particulary newbies Or assholes) has it

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Posted 10 July 2004 - 07:35 AM

Yes is must be usable only for complete file.
It should be a good thing if there were some limitation, FIRST to help release in order the feature disable itself.
Two ways :
- like in Sivka's mod, you can choose a number of days during which files have a release bonus.
- taking in consideration the number of complete sources and disable powershare when a defined number is reached. In the past i asked Pawcio to put such limitations in his Powershare, and he did it :) : you could choose yourself the limit for part file and for complete file, with 20/50 max limit. Add an auto mode based on this, and it was very fine. Under limits PS is ON, above OFF. With max limit, no risk to have too much credit shaping, and 50 max limit is really enough (or maybe just a little more, 70 like in Moprh) for releasers, beacause it means there's at least 10 times more source on the network.
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Posted 10 July 2004 - 07:22 PM

yep
thats what I thought
powershare should be limited by complete sources to be able to be use it
but it is quite hard to define the limit number of complete sources
between 25 and 50 seems fine to me
but i would prefer something like 25 :D ;)


imho, powershare should be enable only IF :
(1) (Number of complete sources) < 25

and, only IF (1) is wrong ! THEN enable powershare only IF :

(2) ratio (Number of total sources) / (Number of complete sources) > 5


for example :
a file has 24 completes sources! then powershare is enable !

another file has 200 complete sources! so (1) is wrong... so powershare will be enable for this file ONLY IF (2) is right, so, only if this file has 1000 Total sources... or more !


hope i was clear =)

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Posted 10 July 2004 - 10:32 PM

MadlyMad, on Jul 10 2004, 09:22 PM, said:

between 25 and 50 seems fine to me
but i would prefer something like 25 :D ;)

I asked Pawcio to make it adjustable (yes, it's really needed). And it was :+1: . I just mention these values as a maximum ;)

What you describe is the way Morph mod works. I just miss adjustable values (too high for me too, so useless).

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Posted 11 July 2004 - 01:48 AM

Another limit could be if the user has uploaded more than downloaded during the session. That could signify a releaser behaviour.

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Posted 11 July 2004 - 03:43 AM

zz, on Jul 11 2004, 02:48 AM, said:

Another limit could be if the user has uploaded more than downloaded during the session. That could signify a releaser behaviour.

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did i understood something wrong ??? :confused:

seems a weird idea to me :unsure: :unsure:


for me, powersharing is for new files AND old not well shared files... AND really little files (like subtitles for example)
so i dont understand what is wrong to upload more than downloaded during the session

if someone (even a "newbie" user) wants to upload a lot of a file in a session (or more sessions) just to help releasing it, even if he already completed that file

i dont see the problem here :unsure: :confused: :confused:

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Posted 11 July 2004 - 08:09 AM

zz, on Jul 11 2004, 03:48 AM, said:

Another limit could be if the user has uploaded more than downloaded during the session. That could signify a releaser behaviour.

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I don't like this idea too.
I usually download data AND share a rare files. These files are small, but very numerous. I don't share all of them at once, because too much of them. I can't enable PS for all, because this is small files, and number of source can increase very quickly for some of them : if i am not in front of my computer, these files will continue beeing uploaded instead of other files if PS is enabled. With a limit based on complete sources, i'm sure PS will disable as soon as needed, and PS continue to benefit only to files who need it.
Real releaser are needed for the network. But, ZZ, even among other people you have many guys that try to have a qualitative upload :)
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