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#61 User is offline   EagleClaw 

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Posted 07 August 2003 - 03:26 PM

Found a Zonealarm 4 guide for setting up blocked sites....

read it thru a few times its not as hard as it 1st seems

give it a try



http://mercuria.no-i...hp?showtopic=13
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#62 User is offline   Shaggy 

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Posted 07 August 2003 - 06:04 PM

i prefer this one:

it uses a free xml editor, its also much much easier to do
http://mercuria.no-i...p?showtopic=165

or for those of you who prefer sygate:
http://mercuria.no-i...hp?showtopic=41
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#63 User is offline   EagleClaw 

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Posted 07 August 2003 - 08:07 PM

Thanks I used it and it worked VERY well everything added with no trouble

you da man :punk:
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#64 User is offline   Stray6got 

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Posted 08 August 2003 - 02:46 PM

Is the BSA involved at all in lawsuits/warnings? (for those that don't know thats the anti software piracy group equivalent of the mpa/riaa)

In the past 24 hours I've received maybe 10 warnings that a filtered ip was trying to access my emule .

Although I'm glad the filter stopped them, it worried me that they might have other IP's that get through.

"8/7/2003 8:03:08 AM: Filtered IP: 195.14.184.66 ( netblock of bsa.lt (nslookup www.bsa.lt))"

Anyone know what the BSA's coverage is? cuz the only pirated i have are one obscure pc game and one old psx game in my share, the rest is legit. Does the BSA cover console games also?
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#65 User is offline   jetski 

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Posted 08 August 2003 - 02:53 PM

BSA = Business Software Alliance.

A "conglomeration" of various "serious" software vendors who normally actively search for company's that are using unlicensed softwaree.g. office and so forth on many machines.

They have been actively involved in law suits in the UK against corporate clients for breach of copyright and do tend to send out annual "audit" letters that UK business's are supposed to sign.

Signing same is not a legal requirement at this time and I just throw them in the bin.

FACT - Federation Against Copyright Theft appear to deal with various forms in UK
FAST - Federation Against Software Theft is I believe the one that "worries" about PC and Console games.
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#66 User is offline   NynkeNL 

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Posted 11 August 2003 - 01:16 PM

After testing several firewalls I now use Sygate because Norton did not filter the bad IP adresses. I doubt if the Sygate does. I have it now for a week and no itrusion yet, but when I have Peerguardian running it always detects bad IP adresses.
Is Sygate also not stopping the BSA! :o Does anyone have experience with this? I rather have the IP-adresses blocked by a firewall instead of Emule.
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Post icon  Posted 11 August 2003 - 01:41 PM

NynkeNL, on Aug 11 2003, 01:16 PM, said:

After testing several firewalls I now use Sygate because Norton did not filter the bad IP adresses. I doubt if the Sygate does. I have it now for a week and no itrusion yet, but when I have Peerguardian running it always detects bad IP adresses.
Is Sygate also not stopping the BSA! :o Does anyone have experience with this? I rather have the IP-adresses blocked by a firewall instead of Emule.

Did you create an advance rule to block on the IP ranges in Sygate?

Peerguardian will block the IP address first before Sygate can.
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#68 User is offline   NynkeNL 

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Posted 11 August 2003 - 02:16 PM

Yep, the advanced rule. I'd rather not use Peerguardian because it uses a lot of memory. Sygate I like because of the IP and MAC spoofing things.
Do you use Sygate and is the BSA (or some else) ever blocked by it?
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Post icon  Posted 11 August 2003 - 03:40 PM

1- I bought a WiFi card recently and noticed that I can log on to someone elses network because they did not introduce security measures. I have occassionaly been downloading files through this other network.

If they get a letter from RIAA, they certainly are not liable for files shared through their network. The WiFi transmitter default settings are the cause of their infringement.

Might this be a legal defense:

I have a WiFI network and don't have a clue about security. Someone has been logging on and downloading files. I, being a good citizen, have now secured my network and no longer permit external access.
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2- Low ID.

If I have low ID can an eDonkey client detect my IP address? Can the RIAA detect my IP address? :ph34r:

-Stan
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Posted 11 August 2003 - 06:07 PM

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' date='Aug 5 2003, 07:49 PM']

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Unauthorized Use of Universal Motion Pictures
Notice ID: ******
**/**/** **:**:** GMT

Universal City Studios Productions LLLP and its affiliated companies
(collectively, "Universal") are the exclusive owners of copyrights in
many motion pictures, including the motion pictures listed below.

It has come to our attention that **** IP Pools is the service
provider for the IP address listed below, from which unauthorized
copying and distribution (downloading, uploading, file serving, file
"swapping" or other similar activities) of Universal's motion picture(s)
listed below is taking place. We believe that the Internet access of
the user engaging in this infringement is provided by ***** IP
Pools or a downstream service provider who purchases this connectivity
from ****** IP Pools.

This unauthorized copying and distribution constitutes copyright
infringement under applicable national laws and international treaties.
Although various legal and equitable remedies may be available to
Universal as a result of such infringement, Universal believes that the
entire Internet community benefits when these matters are resolved
cooperatively. We urge you to take immediate action to stop this
infringing activity and inform us of the results of your actions. We
appreciate your efforts toward this common goal.

Please be advised that this letter is not and is not intended to be a
complete statement of the facts or law as they may pertain to this
matter or of Universal's positions, rights or remedies, legal or
equitable, all of which are specifically reserved.

Very truly yours,


Internet Anti-Piracy Team,
Worldwide Anti-Piracy Operations
VIVENDI UNIVERSAL ENTERTAINMENT.
100 Universal City Plaza
Universal City, CA 91608
tel. (818) 777-3111
fax (818) 866-6339
antipiracy@unistudios.com

*pgp public key is available on the key server at
ldap://keyserver.pgp.com
** For any correspondence regarding this case, please send your emails
to antipiracy1@unistudios.com and refer to Notice ID: *****. If you
need immediate assistance or if you have general questions please email
antipiracy@unistudios.com.



Title: ********
Infringement Source: eDonkey
Initial Infringement Timestamp: ********** GMT
Recent Infringment Timestamp: ********** GMT
Infringer Username: None
Infringing Filename: My.*******.DVDRip.XviD-DMT.avi
Infringing Filesize: 730736640
Infringers IP Address: *********
Infringers DNS Name: host************.com
Infringing URL: ed2k://********:4662

I got this same thing about a month or so ago. I replied with an email saying I didn't have the file stated. Well, today I tried to email my home acct. from work and it bounced saying it was inactive. So I call Comcrap and they give me a diff.# to call, I knew it was the same# as in the email I received earlier, for the abuse department. The guy tells me they got another complaint from Universal again that I had a file, I denied it and told him how unfair it was that they just take their word for it. Well, I promised I wouldn't do it again and my service was restored. I asked him to send me a copy of the latest "violation" in case I wanted to file a complaint with Universal.

But what I notice is, both my notices were from Universal, so was the above. So obviously, ipfilter.dat isn't working for them. So how are they doing it?

I'm now starting to realize how the DMCA is a horrible law. The ISP has to do whatever the requestor is asking without investigation, etc. etc. So if I didn't like my neighbor, could I send a letter to his ISP saying he is sharing copyrighted material and they have to take my word for it! :shock:
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Posted 11 August 2003 - 06:12 PM

jelsoft, on Aug 1 2003, 08:58 PM, said:

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Kazaa is worst.

Why? Since you are able to not upload anything, whereas eMule uploads even your partials.

And most ppl "in the know", refer to Kazaa as meaning Kazaa Lite. Assuming you weren't thinking that way, is that why you saying it's worse, spyware?
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Post icon  Posted 11 August 2003 - 06:22 PM

buca05, on Aug 11 2003, 06:12 PM, said:

jelsoft, on Aug 1 2003, 08:58 PM, said:

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Kazaa is worst.

Why? Since you are able to not upload anything, whereas eMule uploads even your partials.

And most ppl "in the know", refer to Kazaa as meaning Kazaa Lite. Assuming you weren't thinking that way, is that why you saying it's worse, spyware?

Kazaa is worst because the RIAA is mainly attacking this network.
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Posted 11 August 2003 - 07:28 PM

jelsoft, on Aug 11 2003, 06:22 PM, said:

jelsoft, on Aug 1 2003, 08:58 PM, said:

Kazaa is worst because the RIAA is mainly attacking this network.

OK, Thanks.

So not sharing mp3s but rather ahem, other files, they shouldn't care? Is anyone else looking at that network, MPAA, etc.

EDIT: It seems like they are mostly looking at new releases. In my limited experience, both my notices were for alleged movies that had only been in theaters a short while. I suppose that makes sense, search for the newest ones. Jeesh, how could I have the files anyway, it they were only in the theaters! ;)

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#74 User is offline   jetski 

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Posted 11 August 2003 - 08:42 PM

Try having a read here to see what the ISP's are trying to do
http://www.netcoalition.com/
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Posted 12 August 2003 - 06:28 AM

@buca05: Did you have Peerguardian running or IP-adresses in a firewall?

I would like to know what can stop them. I'm afraid nothing, because you send to the server the files you'r offering and want to download. The only thing they have to do is running Emule. Maybe a filter for all the servers? <_<
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Posted 12 August 2003 - 10:07 AM

NynkeNL, on Aug 12 2003, 06:28 AM, said:

@buca05: Did you have Peerguardian running or IP-adresses in a firewall?

I would like to know what can stop them. I'm afraid nothing, because you send to the server the files you'r offering and want to download. The only thing they have to do is running Emule. Maybe a filter for all the servers? <_<

use a block list placed into a firewall, its much safer.
I believe they are currently working on a project to block the RIAA's IP addresses from servers (saw it on the PG forums)
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Post icon  Posted 12 August 2003 - 12:48 PM

This is a pretty varied thread, jumping around a bit.. and I must say I feel a bit lost...
Now..given the country I live in, I'm trying to think..and I don't think I've yet heard of anyone being served by the RIAA, maybe they have.. I don't always watch the news..bu tI try to catch it every other day.
Though if things change, frankly my ISP is pretty pansy-ass and they'd fold in about a heart beat or less.
(they DO give me an ul cap of about 35k/second on dsl though ;) )
I've heard a few different things mentioned.. an ipfiltering file.. firewalls..etc...
can anyone give me a definitive answer on exactly what I should use (p4 2.4ghz, 512 mb ram.. and labout 30 gb HD space free, xp home)
which I should install? and how I should configure it?
I already have emule set not to show my files... but I guess you can't be too safe.
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Posted 12 August 2003 - 02:10 PM

[QUOTE]I believe they are currently working on a project to block the RIAA's IP addresses from servers (saw it on the PG forums)

Thats good news. I hope they will not only filter the RIAA. Shouldn't be so hard. I'm afraid a lot of proof is already collected. :cool2:
See you in prison :lol:
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Post icon  Posted 12 August 2003 - 02:39 PM

I am confused about one issue here.

IP Blocking is not going to work! :furious:

What causes us to believe that we can ping the RIAA and MPAA websites and then block the IP ranges to secure outselves. Their employees can sit anywhere even from there homes and use different ISPs to log their information. They are not DUMB enough to use just one single IP or a few known IPs so the entire world has them blocked through firewalls etc. B)

Other methods of getting rid of these lawsuits such as coalitions of ISPs and reverse law suits look much more promising then software firewalls.

What do you guys think ?

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Posted 12 August 2003 - 02:44 PM

IMO they can't have proof unless they received non-corrupt data from you (of course it depends on country, this is just logic and what seems reasonable to me, not legal expertise).

I think they aren't sending letters based on seeing you as source because while it is true that there have been a number of letters it's still a minority who have received them. Or maybe they do send the letters in random. We just don't know. Anybody heard of a 0-uploader receiving a letter?

I've had the idea for a while, maybe somebody can realize it. Mod an emule (remove both upload and download) and put a huge load of music/movie hashes to boot, within server limits of course. Then see if any letters arrive. Then we would know if the sending is random or not.

edit: typos

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