[jelsoft]

shred, on Jul 31 2003, 11:56 PM, said:

Im not scared of downloading,seems the mpaa is only going after the people serving files.
Looks like I may have to use kazaa and be done with donkey.

Kazaa is worst. You won't get a warning for sharing files, but a lawsuit from the RIAA. (The MPAA haven't result to lawsuits yet).

You might want to consider switching ISPs.

xylo9 said:

The next generation ABIT motherboards with hardware hard drive data encryption.
Will it work?

This whole claim about Abit motherboards protecting your computer from the RIAA is a joke.

The RIAA doesn't hack your computer. They scan for any public files you have out in the network.

C02 said:

So If ive gained a simple understanding of this all, it is alright to download copyrighted files such as movies, songs, ect. Then if i store them on my comp and not share them i wont be nailed by any org thus avoiding any legel matters?

Yes, the RIAA and MPAA is after people who share their copyright works.

So if you don't share and just download you will be fine.

But keep in mind that if everybody in did that, then the whole network would die off. Nobody can download anything. That is what the RIAA and MPAA wants.

This post has been edited by jelsoft: 01 August 2003 - 08:58 PM

[Grendell]

shred @ Jul 31 2003, on 11:56 PM, said:

Im not scared of downloading,seems the mpaa is only going after the people serving files.

Whatever files you are downloading in eMule are shared.

Users who have gotten letters/e-mails from MPAA were "only downloading."

This post has been edited by Grendell: 02 August 2003 - 04:16 PM

[spakker]

Anyone from the UK had a warning about p2p?

Spk.

[Shaggy]

spakker, on Aug 3 2003, 01:32 AM, said:

Anyone from the UK had a warning about p2p?

Spk.

some people with BT openworld and NTL got letters

[Dodge]

We're all going to jail!!

I just hope they have Emule there

[Shaggy]

Dodge, on Aug 3 2003, 03:17 PM, said:

We're all going to jail!!

I just hope they have Emule there

LOL

once they get emule in jail........we will all be downloading in jail..whats next???

where are they going to put us?? the whitehouse??

[jetski]

Shaggy, on Aug 3 2003, 10:41 PM, said:

Dodge, on Aug 3 2003, 03:17 PM, said:

We're all going to jail!! 

I just hope they have Emule there

LOL

once they get emule in jail........we will all be downloading in jail..whats next???

where are they going to put us?? the whitehouse??

I thought that that the criminals were in charge there already

[cymen]

In my country it's not fully illegal to use p2p but we(my friends) are working out a plan to get it more savely before it gets illegal, actually because it has alot more advantages.

We are planning to set up a WiFi network with a gateway(incoming internet connection) and a fileserver. The gateway is conntected with WiFi to the users and the fileserver. The gateway is trackable since it has an IP that's conntected to the WWW. But the other side our wicked web work . If the police found the gateway were no illegal stuff is stored they will need some extra time to find the fileserver, locating that will need another team of experts . In the meanwhile we can just unplug and place the fileserver in somebody's basement or remove just any evidence with quick format...



The other advantage are(+internetting gateway): Faster downloading, faster internetting, cheaper if with more ppl, acces to huge database, download a movie only once(we use remote desktop on the fileserver) and no hard(soft) evidence

[drorsdd]

cymen, on Aug 4 2003, 12:02 PM, said:

In my country it's not fully illegal to use p2p but we(my friends) are working out a plan to get it more savely before it gets illegal, actually because it has alot more advantages.

We are planning to set up a WiFi network with a gateway(incoming internet connection) and a fileserver. The gateway is conntected with WiFi to the users and the fileserver. The gateway is trackable since it has an IP that's conntected to the WWW. But the other side our wicked web work . If the police found the gateway were no illegal stuff is stored they will need some extra time to find the fileserver, locating that will need another team of experts . In the meanwhile we can just unplug and place the fileserver in somebody's basement or remove just any evidence with quick format...



The other advantage are(+internetting gateway): Faster downloading, faster internetting, cheaper if with more ppl, acces to huge database, download a movie only once(we use remote desktop on the fileserver) and no hard(soft) evidence

hmmm
let me guess....
is yor country really hot & humid right now??

[bert02]

just apply 4 your own province then make a rule that p2p sharing isnt illegal

[kh1234567890]

Shaggy, on Aug 3 2003, 01:34 PM, said:

spakker, on Aug 3 2003, 01:32 AM, said:

Anyone from the UK had a warning about p2p?

Spk.

some people with BT openworld and NTL got letters

Just had an email from abuse@zen.co.uk.

Hi,

Please find attached a copy of a Copyright Violation notification. Please cease and desist in line
with our terms and conditions and AUP

and a forward of email they'd got from paramount-pictures@copyright-compliance.com.

kh

[drorsdd]

drorsdd, on Jul 31 2003, 06:20 PM, said:

maybe this is realy dumb (dont get all over me now )
but what stops the RIAA to get their own emule/edonkey server (anyone can host a server right ?) and by that get all the ip's.shared files lists of all the users that are connected to this server--->sue everybody.
is this possible? or is there something i dont understand?

well is it??

[C00LER[T]]

spakker, on Aug 3 2003, 01:32 AM, said:

Anyone from the UK had a warning about p2p?

Spk.

Quote

Unauthorized Use of Universal Motion Pictures
Notice ID: ******
**/**/** **:**:** GMT

Universal City Studios Productions LLLP and its affiliated companies
(collectively, "Universal") are the exclusive owners of copyrights in
many motion pictures, including the motion pictures listed below.

It has come to our attention that **** IP Pools is the service
provider for the IP address listed below, from which unauthorized
copying and distribution (downloading, uploading, file serving, file
"swapping" or other similar activities) of Universal's motion picture(s)
listed below is taking place. We believe that the Internet access of
the user engaging in this infringement is provided by ***** IP
Pools or a downstream service provider who purchases this connectivity
from ****** IP Pools.

This unauthorized copying and distribution constitutes copyright
infringement under applicable national laws and international treaties.
Although various legal and equitable remedies may be available to
Universal as a result of such infringement, Universal believes that the
entire Internet community benefits when these matters are resolved
cooperatively. We urge you to take immediate action to stop this
infringing activity and inform us of the results of your actions. We
appreciate your efforts toward this common goal.

Please be advised that this letter is not and is not intended to be a
complete statement of the facts or law as they may pertain to this
matter or of Universal's positions, rights or remedies, legal or
equitable, all of which are specifically reserved.

Very truly yours,


Internet Anti-Piracy Team,
Worldwide Anti-Piracy Operations
VIVENDI UNIVERSAL ENTERTAINMENT.
100 Universal City Plaza
Universal City, CA 91608
tel. (818) 777-3111
fax (818) 866-6339
antipiracy@unistudios.com

*pgp public key is available on the key server at
ldap://keyserver.pgp.com
** For any correspondence regarding this case, please send your emails
to antipiracy1@unistudios.com and refer to Notice ID: *****. If you
need immediate assistance or if you have general questions please email
antipiracy@unistudios.com.



Title: ********
Infringement Source: eDonkey
Initial Infringement Timestamp: ********** GMT
Recent Infringment Timestamp: ********** GMT
Infringer Username: None
Infringing Filename: My.*******.DVDRip.XviD-DMT.avi
Infringing Filesize: 730736640
Infringers IP Address: *********
Infringers DNS Name: host************.com
Infringing URL: ed2k://********:4662

The above email was sent from my friends ISP Provider just recently,i have edited out some information for obvious reasons as you never know exactly whos reading this.
Now the question i want to ask ,is the file in question been tagged with some kind of phone home trojan ? or are these movie peeps infact using the mule/donkey to actually collect all IP's that attempt to download the file from the network ? or some other nasty sneaky option.

[Maxim(L2)]

cymen, on Aug 4 2003, 10:02 AM, said:

In my country it's not fully illegal to use p2p but we(my friends) are working out a plan to get it more savely before it gets illegal, actually because it has alot more advantages.

We are planning to set up a WiFi network with a gateway(incoming internet connection) and a fileserver. The gateway is conntected with WiFi to the users and the fileserver. The gateway is trackable since it has an IP that's conntected to the WWW. But the other side our wicked web work . If the police found the gateway were no illegal stuff is stored they will need some extra time to find the fileserver, locating that will need another team of experts . In the meanwhile we can just unplug and place the fileserver in somebody's basement or remove just any evidence with quick format...



The other advantage are(+internetting gateway): Faster downloading, faster internetting, cheaper if with more ppl, acces to huge database, download a movie only once(we use remote desktop on the fileserver) and no hard(soft) evidence

a quick format wont get rid of the packets left over, you need a program that WIPES the hard drive be re write 0101010101 all over it multiple time to scrable it

[kh1234567890]

C00LER[T said:

,Aug 5 2003, 07:49 PM]The above email was sent from my friends ISP Provider just recently,i have edited out some information for obvious reasons as you never know exactly whos reading this.
Now the question i want to ask ,is the file in question been tagged with some kind of phone home trojan ? or are these movie peeps infact using the mule/donkey to actually collect all IP's that attempt to download the file from the network ? or some other nasty sneaky option.

Interestingly, the filehash (which uniquely identifies the file) does not appear in these notices. I suspect a very low tech approach subbed to some cheapskate outfit who do not really understand eDonkey. In my case the two files cited seemed dodgy from the start and would not preview. I killed the d/ls after a few chunks. Probably a stupid US sting operation - share a file named after a recently released film and watch who bites.

kh

[Tahiti_Bob]

Actually, I believe the RIAA/MPAA is looking for illegal files shared for uploads, not the files downloaded.

If they can download on their computer (= upload from a user) a copyrighted file from a given IP address, then it is suffcient proof of illegal activity coming from that IP address, They don't have to look at your hard drive.

[EagleClaw]

Hope it's ok to post this here (its not RIAA or MPAA) but it's close

A friend of mine just got a letter from our ISP that they have been notified
from the :Interactiv* Softwar* Associatio* (IDSA) that he had games on the following site edonkey://namehere.name@**112.182.*** and they had listed all
the games he had in his shared folder. Our ISP of course told him to stop or he may be disconnected. not that either of us we real suprised he got the letter but we are trying to figure out some precautions to take in the future and wonder what he should have been doing to prevent it.

One thing I found was that he had his shared folder "viewable" to everyone!

Akk!

He was not sure what mod he was using at the time (was 7/26/03 and he just got the email on 8/6/03) so i dont know if the mod he was using used ipfilter.dat or not.

so i guess my main question is does having a mod with ipfilter.dat running and not "showing" you shared folder give you the most protection (beside's not sharing witch we will never do)?



I can post more info if needed, just let me know


TIA for all reply's

[power802]

use sygate firewall or zonealarme and
read this information P2P Enemies
read this (Win2k) Windows 2000 Services Tweak guide

block this ports ---> 139, 135, 445 and 593 (TCP,UDP) Microsoft Windows DCOM RPC Interface Buffer Overrun Vulnerability

This post has been edited by power802: 07 August 2003 - 02:40 PM

[EagleClaw]

after i found this "PeerGuardian IP DB - Zonealarm Pro 4 XML Format"

do i paste it to a excel sheet and import it to zonealarm?

Are there any guides for doing this i should read? or is it that simple to do?


thanks for the help

will also block those ports you mentioned...thanks

[power802]

EagleClaw, on Aug 7 2003, 02:34 PM, said:

after i found this "PeerGuardian IP DB - Zonealarm Pro 4 XML Format"

do i paste it to a excel sheet and import it to zonealarm?

Are there any guides for doing this i should read? or is it that simple to do?


thanks for the help

will also block those ports you mentioned...thanks

I'm sorry i don't use ZA , i use sygate it is easier and better

This post has been edited by power802: 07 August 2003 - 02:57 PM