[Thor6969]

I've been getting emails from viacom through my internet provider saying i'm downloading and sharing this show or that show. I'm not downloading these shows and am wondering why they're sending these emails and if i should worry about being sued.

[JamesTQuirk]

Thor6969, on 27 December 2014 - 04:41 PM, said:

I've been getting emails from viacom through my internet provider saying i'm downloading and sharing this show or that show. I'm not downloading these shows and am wondering why they're sending these emails and if i should worry about being sued.

I found answer was, Go Kad only, when I was using servers, I kept gettin these crap messages, about files I DID NOT DOWNLOAD, They r somehow seeing severs searches passing thru machine, and assigning them to you, on Speck .... Like me, & others, it has happened to ...

[loverboy]

What is the list of servers you are connected to?

[Thor6969]

JamesTQuirk, on 28 December 2014 - 04:44 PM, said:

Thor6969, on 27 December 2014 - 04:41 PM, said:

I've been getting emails from viacom through my internet provider saying i'm downloading and sharing this show or that show. I'm not downloading these shows and am wondering why they're sending these emails and if i should worry about being sued.

I found answer was, Go Kad only, when I was using servers, I kept gettin these crap messages, about files I DID NOT DOWNLOAD, They r somehow seeing severs searches passing thru machine, and assigning them to you, on Speck .... Like me, & others, it has happened to ...

That makes sense.I was only using kad but recently tried using some servers to see if it got anymore results. I'll go back to using only kad. Thanks!!

[Zangune]

It's plain false Kad is more secure than server.

[coluche]

Zangune, on 29 December 2014 - 06:21 PM, said:

It's plain false Kad is more secure than server.

Well, yes, but :

an evil server would know all of the eMule's share when eMule connects to it (up to the server's file-limit ), so have a list of what to then download from the eMule to have proof of this or that file being uploaded by eMule in question.

But I would not necessarily see such evil server in action here - actually the contrary.
If it WAS such evil server, then "they" would know what files your eMule shares, and not write letters about files you do NOT share.

What might have happened :

Are you sure they are genuine letters/ emails from your ISP, not just some scam/ phishing scenario ?

Or maybe you DO share those files mentioned in the letters, but under a different filename. Have you checked all downloaded files if they really are what you think they are ?
E.g. I once downloaded an archive that DID contain what I expected (not videos), but for unknown reasons it ALSO contained a crappy, big-sized porn video, "hidden" in a sub-sub-folder. I only noticed this much later.

Maybe someone ab-/uses your WiFi ?

Maybe you were identified falsely - those copyright protection companies / "lawyers" / rip-offs again and again show crappy investigation / identification methods.

You might have caught a malware that shares stuff ? (do these still exist ?)

and more possible reasons ...

This post has been edited by coluche: 29 December 2014 - 06:35 PM

[Thor6969]

coluche, on 29 December 2014 - 06:32 PM, said:

Zangune, on 29 December 2014 - 06:21 PM, said:

It's plain false Kad is more secure than server.

Well, yes, but :

an evil server would know all of the eMule's share when eMule connects to it (up to the server's file-limit ), so have a list of what to then download from the eMule to have proof of this or that file being uploaded by eMule in question.

But I would not necessarily see such evil server in action here - actually the contrary.
If it WAS such evil server, then "they" would know what files your eMule shares, and not write letters about files you do NOT share.

What might have happened :

Are you sure they are genuine letters/ emails from your ISP, not just some scam/ phishing scenario ?

Or maybe you DO share those files mentioned in the letters, but under a different filename. Have you checked all downloaded files if they really are what you think they are ?
E.g. I once downloaded an archive that DID contain what I expected (not videos), but for unknown reasons it ALSO contained a crappy, big-sized porn video, "hidden" in a sub-sub-folder. I only noticed this much later.

Maybe someone ab-/uses your WiFi ?

Maybe you were identified falsely - those copyright protection companies / "lawyers" / rip-offs again and again show crappy investigation / identification methods.

You might have caught a malware that shares stuff ? (do these still exist ?)

and more possible reasons ...

[Thor6969]

coluche, on 29 December 2014 - 06:32 PM, said:

Zangune, on 29 December 2014 - 06:21 PM, said:

It's plain false Kad is more secure than server.

Well, yes, but :

an evil server would know all of the eMule's share when eMule connects to it (up to the server's file-limit ), so have a list of what to then download from the eMule to have proof of this or that file being uploaded by eMule in question.

But I would not necessarily see such evil server in action here - actually the contrary.
If it WAS such evil server, then "they" would know what files your eMule shares, and not write letters about files you do NOT share.

What might have happened :

Are you sure they are genuine letters/ emails from your ISP, not just some scam/ phishing scenario ?

Or maybe you DO share those files mentioned in the letters, but under a different filename. Have you checked all downloaded files if they really are what you think they are ?
E.g. I once downloaded an archive that DID contain what I expected (not videos), but for unknown reasons it ALSO contained a crappy, big-sized porn video, "hidden" in a sub-sub-folder. I only noticed this much later.

Maybe someone ab-/uses your WiFi ?

Maybe you were identified falsely - those copyright protection companies / "lawyers" / rip-offs again and again show crappy investigation / identification methods.

You might have caught a malware that shares stuff ? (do these still exist ?)

and more possible reasons ...

[Thor6969]

I'm sure these shows aren't on my computer. Also i don't use wi-fi as emule doesn't work as good with wi-fi.

[JamesTQuirk]

Thor6969, on 29 December 2014 - 02:34 PM, said:

JamesTQuirk, on 28 December 2014 - 04:44 PM, said:

Thor6969, on 27 December 2014 - 04:41 PM, said:

I've been getting emails from viacom through my internet provider saying i'm downloading and sharing this show or that show. I'm not downloading these shows and am wondering why they're sending these emails and if i should worry about being sued.

I found answer was, Go Kad only, when I was using servers, I kept gettin these crap messages, about files I DID NOT DOWNLOAD, They r somehow seeing severs searches passing thru machine, and assigning them to you, on Speck .... Like me, & others, it has happened to ...

That makes sense.I was only using kad but recently tried using some servers to see if it got anymore results. I'll go back to using only kad. Thanks!!

I still use SOME servers, a indexed search thru a server/servers can save time, TVU is only one I find does not give crap files, well not as much, but I only use a server to do a search, if I can't find it in KAD, or GOOGLE, by just searching for " ed2k (filename)", once I have filename/hash I can dissconnect from ed2k & run KAD ONLY...

[fox88]

JamesTQuirk, on 02 January 2015 - 08:10 AM, said:

TVU is only one

Decent servers are few nowadays, but no, not "the only one". I have proper results with servers from peerates' list.

[JamesTQuirk]

fox88, on 02 January 2015 - 06:42 PM, said:

JamesTQuirk, on 02 January 2015 - 08:10 AM, said:

TVU is only one

Decent servers are few nowadays, but no, not "the only one". I have proper results with servers from peerates' list.

Yeah Peerates is OK, but others have lots of crap miss named, uncompletable files, I wouldn't berate anyone who seems to run 5 emule server, but SECRUITY is a joke in some servers, which are full of bodgey files ...

[fox88]

JamesTQuirk, on 02 January 2015 - 05:26 PM, said:

Yeah Peerates is OK, but others have lots of crap miss named, uncompletable files

Just do not use other lists. There is only a handful of good servers only.

JamesTQuirk, on 02 January 2015 - 05:26 PM, said:

I wouldn't berate anyone who seems to run 5 emule server, but SECRUITY is a joke in some servers, which are full of bodgey files ...

I see in your words no understanding of what servers are for and how it all works.
Servers do not keep files but only index what users' eMules are reporting. Servers do not check or verify file names or if a file will ever be completed.

This post has been edited by fox88: 03 January 2015 - 05:15 PM

[JamesTQuirk]

fox88, on 04 January 2015 - 03:15 AM, said:

JamesTQuirk, on 02 January 2015 - 05:26 PM, said:

Yeah Peerates is OK, but others have lots of crap miss named, uncompletable files

Just do not use other lists. There is only a handful of good servers only.

JamesTQuirk, on 02 January 2015 - 05:26 PM, said:

I wouldn't berate anyone who seems to run 5 emule server, but SECRUITY is a joke in some servers, which are full of bodgey files ...

I see in your words no understanding of what servers are for and how it all works.
Servers do not keep files but only index what users' eMules are reporting. Servers do not check or verify file names or if a file will ever be completed.

Well, your eyesight isn't very good then, I did say THAT in previous post to that one, if you read it, you may have noticed, BUT if you think Crap Files aren't Coming VIA Crap Servers, you are wrong. this is no joke, it's another way they try to stuff networks ..

[Zangune]

coluche, on 29 December 2014 - 07:32 PM, said:

an evil server would know all of the eMule's share when eMule connects to it (up to the server's file-limit ), so have a list of what to then download from the eMule to have proof of this or that file being uploaded by eMule in question.

An evil modified eMule version that uses Kad network can track users as well and cannot be found.
eMule code is open source (and free software), eServer code is closed source, so patching eMule Kad code should be easier to patch a server code to act in a evil way.
A server needs a static IP at least to work for a while.
A server have to be added to users servers list, Kad is updated dynamically.
A server is checked by people that care about fake servers, a Kad node cannot be really checked.
And so on.

If I want to know who shares (or is downloading) what I just need to search and start to download the desired file.
If I want to use the network I have to trust the network, somewhat at least.

I just want to say that Kad is not more secure than servers.
The difference between Kad and eD2K is about centralization, not 'security'.

JamesTQuirk, on 02 January 2015 - 03:26 PM, said:

but SECRUITY is a joke in some servers

I would say security is a joke over internet.

JamesTQuirk, on 03 January 2015 - 10:46 PM, said:

if you think Crap Files aren't Coming VIA Crap Servers, you are wrong

Fake files are shared by stupid or evil users.
Try to search 'bbb' in Kad, you will get fake results as well.

[Thor6969]

I only started getting these emails saying i downloaded shows i never downloaded when i went and got servers to try and get more results. I'll try using kad only from now on and see if i get these bullshit emails anymore but i'd bet i won't.

[JamesTQuirk]

JamesTQuirk, on 02 January 2015 - 03:26 PM, said:

but SECRUITY is a joke in some servers

I would say security is a joke over internet.

JamesTQuirk, on 03 January 2015 - 10:46 PM, said:

if you think Crap Files aren't Coming VIA Crap Servers, you are wrong

Fake files are shared by stupid or evil users.
Try to search 'bbb' in Kad, you will get fake results as well.
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[JamesTQuirk]

JamesTQuirk, on 02 January 2015 - 03:26 PM, said:

but SECRUITY is a joke in some servers

I would say security is a joke over internet.

JamesTQuirk, on 03 January 2015 - 10:46 PM, said:

if you think Crap Files aren't Coming VIA Crap Servers, you are wrong

Fake files are shared by stupid or evil users.
Try to search 'bbb' in Kad, you will get fake results as well.
[/quote]

umm, I was trying to link words & thoughts like, Emule, Secruity, & 5 Servers in a line, so they made be added to draw a conclusion, about servers, but maybe I should have been blunt, when talking about crap servers ....

I am reasonably sure, these crappy server, that index's crappy files, has the clients sharing those files, in same Computer Server Cabinet ..

I always do a details/name check on file after starting download, if it has more than 1 name it's a fake ....


And YES, I agree, security is joke, all over ....

This post has been edited by JamesTQuirk: 04 January 2015 - 03:16 AM

[fox88]

JamesTQuirk, on 04 January 2015 - 06:05 AM, said:

umm, I was trying to link words & thoughts like, Emule, Secruity, & 5 Servers in a line, so they made be added to draw a conclusion, about servers, but maybe I should have been blunt, when talking about crap servers ....

What is the point of 'linking' right words in random order?

Server were designed only to index the data that users send, then return that data on search requests; and good servers do that.
Period.

It would be less than naive to expect that servers could or should check for renamed, incomplete or fake files.
By the way, the same is true for KAD.

[JamesTQuirk]

fox88, on 04 January 2015 - 06:34 PM, said:

JamesTQuirk, on 04 January 2015 - 06:05 AM, said:

umm, I was trying to link words & thoughts like, Emule, Secruity, & 5 Servers in a line, so they made be added to draw a conclusion, about servers, but maybe I should have been blunt, when talking about crap servers ....

What is the point of 'linking' right words in random order?

Server were designed only to index the data that users send, then return that data on search requests; and good servers do that.
Period.

It would be less than naive to expect that servers could or should check for renamed, incomplete or fake files.
By the way, the same is true for KAD.

Yeah, and same true for you, YOU don't read what I have posted, last post b4 was that ..............

" I am reasonably sure, these crappy server, that index's crappy files, has the clients sharing those files, in same Computer Server Cabinet .."

& "I always do a details/name check on file after starting download, if it has more than 1 name it's a fake ...."

I know how emule works, BUT so do they, & yes it is open source, So those who don't like emule & p2p in general, can be feeding crappy files, gathering info, Destroying "Network Credibility" Etc, is what they like to do ...

Sorry, but I used to build server farms, b4 I retired, I know how it works & how it can be broken, and as far as I can see, when invalid file chunks only come here when I hook to THOSE servers, I have to suspect them if NOT as culprit just index providers, & if there already "real" copies out there, that eventually can download, how does the crappy chunks, even get a look in ? Isn't that what a ed2k file is all about about, integrity of file contents, via hashset ? So how are crappy chunks, being uploaded, into a valid stream, and still the network don't ban the client, only my client, but then it reappears as Client with a different name providing same "bad chunks" to same file, UNTIL I leave those servers, I and go KAD only OR hook to a "good" server, no problems .. Then we also have people also hacking VLC to direct stream ED2K, as Demo'd in various YouTube clips, & I don't think think VLC uploads, so is it them, giving crap back "trying" to fulfill it's upload requirements to network ?.


I don't know .. so I rant @ Servers, sorry but I have doing it a while ....

None of this is emule's fault, Only humans ...

Emule 50a is best software I have ever used, it is rock solid network file sucking beast, it you let it ..

This post has been edited by JamesTQuirk: 05 January 2015 - 01:07 AM