[DavidXanatos]

Some Support, on 01 February 2012 - 11:55 PM, said:

However, while I wouldn't mind seeing a new eMule compatible client, I find it unlikely to happen. There are many thousends hours of work in eMule and if you want to compete with it you have to create a better client.

I think that might not be so much work, as long as you use a modern framework like QT.
in eMule almost all GUI stuff is so to say done by hand.
Also parts of the network stuff like proxy support is already part of that framework.


There is also a lot of stuff that can be dropped without any noticeable impact on the users, like:
PeerCache <- does any major ISP actually uses it?
the edonkey message system with its captcha extension
the view shared files feature <- not recomended in the modern days of mass lidigation
Arguably also the secure client identification
The remote preview feature <- ihave never ever used it and I guess many others also haven't
And last but not least the udp reask feature, though in principle useful with modern DSL connections no one will notice its missing

So all one would need is i think:
basic ed2k protocol support
basic emule protocol extension support
Source exchange
AICH
KAD

and thats it.


David X.

This post has been edited by DavidXanatos: 02 February 2012 - 08:10 AM

[Tuxman]

DavidXanatos, on 02 February 2012 - 09:09 AM, said:

the edonkey message system with its captcha extension

So, how to more efficiently block spam bots?

DavidXanatos, on 02 February 2012 - 09:09 AM, said:

the view shared files feature <- not recomended in the modern days of mass lidigation

Friends still should be able to see them.

[DavidXanatos]

Tuxman, on 02 February 2012 - 11:15 AM, said:

DavidXanatos, on 02 February 2012 - 09:09 AM, said:

the edonkey message system with its captcha extension

So, how to more efficiently block spam bots?

By removing the message system all together.

Tuxman, on 02 February 2012 - 11:15 AM, said:

DavidXanatos, on 02 February 2012 - 09:09 AM, said:

the view shared files feature <- not recomended in the modern days of mass lidigation

Friends still should be able to see them.

the entire friend feature should also be dropped.


David X.

[Tuxman]

Messaging is useful if you need a file a bit faster. Sometimes, messaging the releaser helps you.
About the friend feature: Well, no, why?

[DavidXanatos]

Tuxman, on 02 February 2012 - 11:39 AM, said:

Messaging is useful if you need a file a bit faster. Sometimes, messaging the releaser helps you.

If his client has friendslot or so.
this would also be a dropped feature.

If you want to be contacted about your sharing busyness, you can always put your icq number into your nick

Tuxman, on 02 February 2012 - 11:39 AM, said:

About the friend feature: Well, no, why?

because AFAIR you can nto connect "friends" if you are not sucking on the same files, i belive to remember that something like this was possible with the olde ed2k through servers, but I'm pretty sure KAD does not support finding clients by their userhash, you can only search by buddy ID to find the buddy <- this one might abuse to find a freiend by his kad ID, bit i'm not sure if this is desired.

So the friend message system is quite broken already.

David X.

[Tuxman]

Not everyone using eMule has ICQ.

[DavidXanatos]

Tuxman, on 02 February 2012 - 11:52 AM, said:

Not everyone using eMule has ICQ.

than put your email address in if you don't might the spam *g*

PS: does users in sour expirience use this features? I mean realy, the 99% kind of suers? or is ot only soemthing vor the 0.01% elite?

This post has been edited by DavidXanatos: 02 February 2012 - 11:54 AM

[Tuxman]

I get more messages than I send.

[DavidXanatos]

Tuxman, on 02 February 2012 - 12:03 PM, said:

I get more messages than I send.

that does not mean anything, you could send 1/year and revive 2/year, thats not a much used feature.

you need some hard numbers

[Tuxman]

I cannot speak for other users. Also, beba does not contain a hidden message counter which sends statistical data to me.
Hmm, not yet at least.

[Some Support]

Mhm, I don't see much point discussing here about a client which does not exists. If someone starts a new client it is up to him which features to implement, just like eMule did when it started out. Users will deceide if they like it or not.

[DavidXanatos]

Some Support, on 02 February 2012 - 12:17 PM, said:

I don't see much point discussing here about a client which does not exists.

This might change.

[Stulle]

besides, KAD is capable of establishing a connection to friends with some reliability.

[fox88]

DavidXanatos, on 02 February 2012 - 03:19 PM, said:

Some Support, on 02 February 2012 - 12:17 PM, said:

I don't see much point discussing here about a client which does not exists.

This might change.

At dawn of one day a guy called ... was dissatisfied with the original _eDonkey2000 eMule client and was convinced he could do better.

Let's see if the story goes into another round.

[DavidXanatos]

@fox88
There is one major reason for such a step that wasn't there 2002, IPv6!
The ed2k protocol does not support it, it could be extended to support it but it would be really a lot of work with eMule as it is a lot of code.
Writing a client form scratch would allow to make all the right precautions to allow a smooth and easy ipv6 implementation.

David X.

[Some Support]

Well I have to admit, I do not share your optimism on the smooth and easy recoding of the entire client in a foreseeable future, but who am I to judge. So good luck

[sonoro]

@DavidXanatos

Before too much respect for a developer

will abolish credit system?

More speed with no waiting ed2k?

Best upload? better than slotfocus?


For me the new customer has to be ..

Send complete client file ..
Best best upload and download ..

ed2k need for me so speed and send full file for any user to start downloading a file, would attract more customers ed2k network .. making it 10 times better than torrent / magnet / DDL

Or mixed in a client user that can unite with torrent ed2k default style ..

[omeringen]

@sonoro,
Please stop using translators. Your whole post is just meanless. Besides, this topic is neither about some kind of new client nor about it's feature requests.

This post has been edited by omeringen: 04 February 2012 - 10:34 PM

[DavidXanatos]

One thing to drop support for just crossed my mind:
ed2k Server support <- nowadays there are only fake servers around anyways and connecting to a honypot server may cause great trouble

David X.

[hooligan3000]

my ed2k server is no fake
also from peerates and emule-security ;-)