[AlanD]

Someone seriously needs to create a way to warn other users of a files content. This is the way it is done on most web sites and it works. I have been getting a lot of files that have nothing to do with the title and some virus/Trojans. This could also help for quality rating too. I see there is a comment section but it appears to be not functional on most files that are not my own. Please let me know if there is a way to do this now for I could find none. Sure you can go to trusted sites but that is very limiting. I am new so please forgive me I am way off.

[torpon]

Rate system is already available
What do the red and green exclamation marks mean?
How can I add a comment / rating to a file?

Cheers

[fox88]

AlanD, on 02 March 2011 - 05:36 AM, said:

I see there is a comment section but it appears to be not functional on most files that are not my own.

You can add comment in Shared Files tab, which means it's yours - at least partially.
In any case, do not trust too much these comments and ratings. Also read guides for getting clean servers list and for avoiding fake files.

This post has been edited by fox88: 02 March 2011 - 09:05 AM

[AlanD]

torpon, on 01 March 2011 - 11:09 PM, said:

Rate system is already available
What do the red and green exclamation marks mean?
How can I add a comment / rating to a file?

Cheers

OK thanks for the reply. But how do you read others comments? If you can not, why make one? Simply rating it would suffice. The red mark (which is not an exclamation mark, unless upside down counts) in my window is on the "content" tab not the comment tab?

[torpon]

When files are rated by someone, there are exclamation marks. You can read the comments right clicking on the file and selecting Comments.

Cheers

[starko]

AlanD, on 02 March 2011 - 02:36 AM, said:

Someone seriously needs to create a way to warn other users of a files content.

Yes, and while it's impossible to completely prevent downloading something other than you asked for, there is a number of ways to drastically decrease the problem. Unfortunately it seems that at this moment there are no developers that are both able and willing to implement it.

Long time ago someone tried to do something about it - the current comments system. Good try, but it does not work. Who in their right mind, would want to mark a file as a virus and then keep sharing it? I wonder whether it's is possible to improve it. I remember vaguely something about clients (nodes) with id hashes identical to file hashes. And that those nodes are used for keeping track of sources for that file, or something like that. Could those nodes also keep comments (rating) data?

[antonymous]

torpon, on 03 March 2011 - 08:25 AM, said:

When files are rated by someone, there are exclamation marks. You can read the comments right clicking on the file and selecting Comments.

The only problem here is, as soon as the fake file is unshared again the comment/rating does not persist in the network...

[fox88]

antonymous, on 03 March 2011 - 09:41 PM, said:

The only problem here is, as soon as the fake file is unshared again the comment/rating does not persist in the network...

As far as I understand, rating and comments were invented for giving an idea about contents quality, not for fighting with fakes and viruses.

[AlanD]

starko, on 03 March 2011 - 12:51 AM, said:

AlanD, on 02 March 2011 - 02:36 AM, said:

Someone seriously needs to create a way to warn other users of a files content.

Yes, and while it's impossible to completely prevent downloading something other than you asked for, there is a number of ways to drastically decrease the problem. Unfortunately it seems that at this moment there are no developers that are both able and willing to implement it.

Long time ago someone tried to do something about it - the current comments system. Good try, but it does not work. Who in their right mind, would want to mark a file as a virus and then keep sharing it? I wonder whether it's is possible to improve it. I remember vaguely something about clients (nodes) with id hashes identical to file hashes. And that those nodes are used for keeping track of sources for that file, or something like that. Could those nodes also keep comments (rating) data?

Guess this turned out to be a constructive suggestion after all. This answers my next question of what to do with the files after commenting. Yes I would not continue to share a virus so it would be useless for that. I do continue sharing for the sake of trying to publish the comment other inaccuracies in files. But they are a serious waste of time and space. How much of the shared file needs to be sent to get the comment published?

[starko]

AlanD, on 03 March 2011 - 08:51 PM, said:

Guess this turned out to be a constructive suggestion after all. This answers my next question of what to do with the files after commenting. Yes I would not continue to share a virus so it would be useless for that. I do continue sharing for the sake of trying to publish the comment other inaccuracies in files. But they are a serious waste of time and space. How much of the shared file needs to be sent to get the comment published?

It is definitely constructive because it once again brings attention to the issue. Otherwise, support forum is probably a better place for it.
The comment is only published as long as you share. The moment you delete that file, your comment goes with it. If you think that you are helping by sharing that file, the only right thing you can do is to give it a name reflecting the content. Personally, if by "mistake" i download some porn, i delete it without second thought. On the other hand if it is something worth supporting (which happens rarely) i might keep it for a while, having given it a proper name.

In the end it comes down to the fact that delivering unwanted content is the biggest flaw of eMule - THE weakest point. It makes eMule inefficient. It is the cause of daily frustration of thousands of users. And the cause of terabytes of daily network overhead. The cause of queue slots dedicated to useless traffic instead of sharing things people really ask for. So yeah, we are still waiting for a programmer that has a little of skills, a little of guts, a little of common sense and plenty of time to tackle this fascinating challenge. I am sure it will happen sooner or later. What surprises me the most that none of the Mod developers grab this issue and run with it. All the anti-leaching, bit counting wizardry and such is fine but it's small peanuts. This on the other hand is HUGE. Have a Mod that guarantees the least of downloaded junk and every one will know about it. And everyone will want it! The "official eMule" will follow.

PS. If i did not have two kids, mortgage and a startup business that takes 12 hours a day of my time, 6 days a week - I would fix most of the "unwanted content" problems. If any of the mod developers have the ambition - let me know.

This post has been edited by starko: 04 March 2011 - 08:22 PM