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#1 User is offline   fredj77 

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Posted 02 November 2009 - 09:11 AM

Sorry, I am new to this forum. (Don't mean to look like too much of a noob).

I have been using eMule for some years now, on a dedicated win2k machine. I have kept up to date with eMule updates currently v0.49c.

Every now and then the sources for my active files disappear.

It seems at an unknown time my sources vanish, at the reask time they disappear. eg some files with 600+ sources will drop to 1-5 sources then approx 6 hrs later they seem to come back to normal. I have manually configured my setup over the last 4 years to my own liking as i have self taught (Router, Terminal, EMule, Network...).

I always have hi id's on both eD2k & Kad.

I have spent countless hours trying to find someone else with this problem...

Can Anybody help?
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Posted 02 November 2009 - 01:08 PM

In that case you certainly wont mind the few extra minutes to post your pc and network configuration and emule settings as requested in here to get us started.

Most people don't like the old guessing game. :flowers:
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Posted 02 November 2009 - 09:57 PM

Pc Configuration
- Operating System win 2k sp4 full updates
- Internet connection type (Bandwidth, Eg: 1024/320 DSL) 2meg dsl
- Modem, Router, Proxy (manufacturer and model) d-link dsl-520T
- Firewalls built in to router
- Antivirus nod32
- Spyware detector nod32
- Emule Version v0.49c

Emule Settings (Options tab)
- Dl/Ul capacity (Max/Max)
- Dl/Ul limits throttled to 6k down/ 2k up (keeps my usage under data cap which is tiny in New Zealand)
- Hard limit (Max/Max)
- Max Connection 5000
- Activated networks (ED2k, Kad, Both) Both hi ID
- Max. new connection/5 secs (Options -> Extended) 30
- Max half open connection (Options -> Extended) 50
- Ports TCP/UDP tcp 3621 / udp 3631 (properly forwarded)

Emule General
- Numbers of servers in your server list 17
- High ID or LowID Hi
- Number of downloading files and average number of sources 36 active 46 paused total 72
- Number of shared files approx 100 all 350MB+
- Used server name and IP (eg: DonkeyServer NO1) currently stormshare 4
- Internet Service Provider (ISP) Orcon (New Zealand)
- Is Protocol Obfuscation enabled? Yes (and it seems I can only connect through obfuscated allowed servers)
- Found sources (Statistics -> Transfer -> Downloads -> Session -> Found sources) 456

I am starting to wonder if Orcon (ISP) is disallowing emule through the busy period of 6pm to 12 midnight (NZT) The rest of the day it seems to be working fine.


Feel free to hassle or challenge my settings
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 08:12 AM

View Postfredj77, on 03 November 2009 - 12:57 AM, said:

- Internet connection type (Bandwidth, Eg: 1024/320 DSL) 2meg dsl --- You should've measured separately up and down

Emule Settings (Options tab)
- Dl/Ul capacity (Max/Max) --- What exactly is that Max/Max?
- Hard limit (Max/Max) --- Again, what is that Max/Max? Try 500
- Max Connection 5000 --- Crazy value. 200 should be enough
- Max. new connection/5 secs (Options -> Extended) 30 --- You do not need that many; set it to 20
- Max half open connection (Options -> Extended) 50 --- Set it to 9

Better leave alone the values if you do not know what it would do.
Concerning Dl/Ul capacity: usually it should be what was measured for the bandwidth; but it's not that important right now with your limits, suitable for a dial-up line.
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 08:39 AM

You might try to disable KAD with that router of yours.
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Posted 04 November 2009 - 08:38 AM

fox88 i've changed the parameters you've suggested.

qm2003 can you elaborate on your statement... I pick up a huge number of sources through KAD

i'm still losing 99.5% of my sources between 18:00 and 00:00

Anybody heard of ISP's restricting traffic between "peak" hours?
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Posted 04 November 2009 - 12:15 PM

I forgot to mention one thing: it might be better to use software firewall instead of router's one.

D-Link router are know to dislike making many connections - that's what KAD needs.
You could try to disconnect KAD for a test. Or try to lower connections/5s even more - down to 10 or even less.

Do other eMule users have the same issues with that ISP?
It appears restricting traffic in peak hours is quite common practice, called "fair usage policy" or something like that. It even could be mentioned in your contract, but not necessarily - then it would be tough to prove. It could be also a case of overloading, when provider oversells it's true capabilities - unless you see sharp changes every day at the same time.
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Posted 05 November 2009 - 09:59 PM

It is a very sharp decrease from 18:00 NZT. From 18:00 every source that reasks disappears... then comes back at 23:58...

I personally don't know any other users on Orcon with emule.

It doesn't seem to be an overselling problem as I can still d/l directly off sites at incredible speed.

To my belief this is something they have implemented at the start of November. (I haven't read their contract for years). Nothing has been posted on their site recently in regards to this.
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Posted 05 November 2009 - 10:03 PM

Thanks for you input anyway guys....
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Posted 06 November 2009 - 06:52 AM

When this throttling occurs in the evening I would try changing ports. Enable "Allow obfuscated connections only" in Options -> Security. Connect to a good server with Kad unconnected and check what happens.
Then I would repeat the process with an empty server list and connect to Kad only to see what changes it makes. And during the test I'd keep an eye on the stats graphs and the verbose log.

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 09:25 AM

Or use a decent vpn service so your isp doesn't know what you are doing.
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Posted 08 November 2009 - 02:11 AM

View Postqm2003, on 06 November 2009 - 10:25 PM, said:

Or use a decent vpn service so your isp doesn't know what you are doing.


So what would the VPN connect to? (sorry even if you could point me to a site to explain).
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