[mrmister001]

Developers should take very seriously to take in consideration to develop an emule that be able to connect without having to open the ports in the routers.

Opening ports it's complex for people that don't know anything about computers or networking. And always, many people says the same, my emule don't connect.

I think you could do a better emule, more decent with the user.

I've been using emule since 2002, in the early beginnings.

In my opinion, the way emule it's going, will make it disappear completely.

So, I have to waste my time learning tutorials to open ports... and then, I need to left the computer working without stopping it for 3 or 4 days, just to download some movies?

And why I don't use a tool to download directly from rapidshare or other hard disk available in internet?

Sometimes, and this is for the environmentalist, I wonder how many pollution are producing the emules of the world, never stopping, and working silently to download stuff... promoting this culture of the slow download in pro quo of a better way of sharing.

Many applications works fine and you don't need to open ports.

Playstation 3 works without opening ports and you can play online.

Messenger works

Skype works...

And many others.

Emule is not elegant with the user, it's complex, sophisticated and old fashion, a resemblance that remind us that computers are just for expert people and normal people, don't deserve to have fun with internet.

Now, the grandmothers of the world now they don't have right to download music or movies to have fun this weekend. No they can't, this is for their grandsons that know better this stuff of the internet. Is just for people that deserve it!

I'm sorry for being so rude, and sure many people will blame me and throw me tomatoes. Again, I'm sorry, but I think it's time to state the things clear, and tell in loud voice:

PLEASE, DO AN EMULE THAT DO NOT NEED TO OPEN THE PORTS TO WORK FINE.

Because is not about your criteria, is about comfort, the comfort of copying a pair of links, and download them to full speed, instead be waiting 4 days and also having to configure a router as if I was an expert in networking.

Perhaps I am not right... ok.

We talk in 5 years, and we see if I wasn't

Thanks

This post has been edited by mrmister001: 28 October 2009 - 03:21 AM

[tHeWiZaRdOfDoS]

I haven't read the whole thread, but ever heard about UPnP? eMule is supporting it and can make all necessary adjustments to your router for you, if the router supports UPnP.

[qm2003]

Is it holiday season again ?


Btw, eMule "works" without port forwarding.
So, what is the problem ?



My guess, you didn't read the manual.
Just a guess ...

This post has been edited by qm2003: 28 October 2009 - 10:04 AM

[fox88]

mrmister001, on 28 October 2009 - 06:17 AM, said:

and then, I need to left the computer working without stopping it for 3 or 4 days, just to download some movies?

Do you know that eMule is file sharing software, not just a downloader? By staying online you let other people to get files from you.

[hkBattousai]

"eMule works" means that a noob computer user setups eMule and uses it without any configuration or modification.

That's not true, eMule doesn't work "as is". You must do some work to make it work.
A have a lot of friends which I suggested using eMule. They listened to my advice and setup eMule, but eventually every single one of them complained about connection (or other) problems.

You have to make eMule work as Torrent works, or eMule is going to disappear from this world...

[Andu]

1) eMule can't work as BT does because they are based on entirely different principles
2) BT needs open ports too. If your router doesn't support UPnP you will have to forward the ports. Unless you want no download.

[Wulp]

The thing with P2P is that it's not just your client that starts connections (like with web browsing) but you must also be able to receive connections from others. For this you have to have open ports.
Your PS3 probably just needs to build up a connection to a server.
Skype probably uses a server as "middleman" so that two firewalled people can communicate.
However, eMule is supposed to work without any servers.
Basically it's not impossible and it's already partially implemented so that you can participate (limited) with low id, but to make a low id to low id transfer fully possible is a bit more complicated than you think.

BTW, there was a thread about it where possible problems are explained in detail (by developers), so feel free to search for it.

[mrmister001]

I'm very sorry, but UPNP feature in emule needs TONS, LOTS, AMAZING IMPROVEMENT. Clearly, don't work. And yes, I know how to activate the UpNP in my router. I have it already activated and also I know how to configure the ports manually.

So I'm sorry, but the tale of the UPNP working fine isn't true. Perhaps for some routers, but not for everyone.

I have UpNP activated in my router and what emule said? Do you want me to try to set up the ports thru UpNP? Oh yes, please do that. MMMM wait a minute... (thinking).... mmmmmmmm I'm sorry I cannot activate the ports thru UpNP, so you'll have to open'em manually. Enjoy emule.

That is the reply of emule.

I'm sorry, but this is not "elegant". Simplicity it's lost completely, to configure this program you need manuals, patience, and a reasonable amount of coffee to make it work.

Or, you can use a download manager as jdownloader or many other and begin to download stuff now. That is now, in 1 minute.

I've been using emule looooooooooooong time in my life, for me it's a program which have some kind of nostalgia, but unfortunately, I'm not using it anymore. Emule is better for sharing, yes, absolutely, but I feel that people will abandon it, if the developers don't make a better emule that solve the problems of the ports.

I'm sorry that is my opinion. If I am not right, we will see what happens in 5 years.

[fox88]

mrmister001, on 05 November 2009 - 09:50 AM, said:

UPNP feature in emule needs TONS, LOTS, AMAZING IMPROVEMENT

Maybe instead of long poetic description you should have provided technical information to the developers? Or at least asked first if it's needed.

[Wulp]

mrmister001, on 05 November 2009 - 07:50 AM, said:

So I'm sorry, but the tale of the UPNP working fine isn't true. Perhaps for some routers, but not for everyone.

UPnP is not an eMule invention. So when not all routers cope well with it, why blame eMule for this?
Maybe it can still be improved, but did anybody say that development has stopped at this point?

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Or, you can use a download manager as jdownloader or many other and begin to download stuff now. That is now, in 1 minute.

Ouch! But during your long eMule usage you did once hear the term peer to peer? While obviously you never heard that jdownloader & co is no P2P at all. You just DON'T NEED any open ports there because it's always your client that starts a connection.
So your request is to make eMule no P2P client anymore?

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I've been using emule looooooooooooong time in my life

And still you haven't managed to try to open ports by hand.

[xilolee]

Maybe your firewall blocks the "UPNP framework" ?

[epsilon2]

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I'm very sorry, but UPNP feature in emule needs TONS, LOTS, AMAZING IMPROVEMENT. Clearly, don't work. And yes, I know how to activate the UpNP in my router. I have it already activated and also I know how to configure the ports manually.

i agree, the "official" upnp introduced in newest emule version never worked for me, but the old upnp from emulespana/others Mod's works for me.

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Btw, eMule "works" without port forwarding.
So, what is the problem ?



My guess, you didn't read the manual.
Just a guess ...

lol are you being retardated ??? who the idiot want to have lowid ??

This post has been edited by epsilon2: 06 November 2009 - 07:14 AM

[qm2003]

There was never any talk about "wanting" lowid.

I guess you didn't read or understood the thread completely.
Can happen to anyone.





But be careful who you call 'retarded', some people might get very cranky.