[ken1]

Hello there my name is Ken, and I've just registered!

I know the subject has been up many times, but believe me I've tried so many times to get a grip
on this, and now I am desperate ... I've read about the upload download settings many many times
but I just cannot seem to get my head around it well enough to apply it to my own situation.

Case: I am on a 100mb/s LAN internet connection. (emule 0.49c - win 7 x64 - 4gb ram amd dual core 5000+ )
and I don't understand how to balance my upload / download balance.

I get upload in the area of 700-800 and then my download is about 80-100
I just think it is a little too much difference, I don't mind uploading fast to
peers, but I mean my dl speed is about a tenth of my upload speed, that cannot
be right can it?

How can I balance it out ? can anyone give me numbers to put into those
config boxes please?

please ..

have a good one and thakns in advance
//Ken

[Wulp]

A 100mb/s LAN internet connection? You surely mean the connecttion between your PC and your router, not to the internet, do you?
You can do a speed test e.g. at speedmeter.nl (but without eMule & Co running).
And please fill out this formular, maybe some settings need to be tweaked.

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but I mean my dl speed is about a tenth of my upload speed, that cannot
be right can it?

Yes it can... Your DL speed mainly depends on sources, how fast they can upload, how many they are, etc.
Yes in general a high upload should result in faster download (through credits) but it can't be guaranteed.
So let's have a look on your settings first.

[fox88]

100Mbit/s connections are quite possible in some places. Like Japan, for example.

[ken1]

Wulp, on 27 October 2009 - 11:50 PM, said:

A 100mb/s LAN internet connection? You surely mean the connecttion between your PC and your router, not to the internet, do you?

No I mean that I do have 100mb/s Internet Connection from my computer to my router and from my router to Internet. baammm!!

that's why I cannot find examples to follow when it comes to settings .... haven't found any info regarding 100mb/s broadband connection
I'm sure there must be some steam to get out of setting the right parameters ...

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but I mean my dl speed is about a tenth of my upload speed, that cannot
be right can it?

Yes it can... Your DL speed mainly depends on sources, how fast they can upload, how many they are, etc.
Yes in general a high upload should result in faster download (through credits) but it can't be guaranteed.
So let's have a look on your settings first.

I certainly understand how the clients that I dl parts from are very different from each other when it comes to ul/dl speed etc ,, ..
it's the fact that being able to ul as fast as I can, my whole system performance take a hit regarding browsing the internet etc ..
I don't mind ul for example 200k if I can download somewhere in the same realm ... but having said that I just think that I've got something
wrong when I constantly finding that the ul speed is way over 5-600 - and my dl speed never gets over 150 ... (most often the dl speed is down to 100).

For example now when typing this I've got 6 active dl running at 42.7 download and my upload are over 800 ... it seems like a poor way to utilize my broadband connection.

my total downloads in queue are 25 (6 active)... and I'm currently uploading to 22 peers

well I understand it's not a constant thing because the way it works ...
thanks for taking the time to read this, and any help are greatly appreciated .. ( I don't want to run a speedtest now cause I don't want to close my emule (been waiting a couple of weeks for an open slot on a very unusual file)

have a good one
//Ken1

This post has been edited by ken1: 28 October 2009 - 10:54 AM

[Vaimok]

Make sure you set Upload Limit in Options/Connection to a value below your available upload bandwidth provided by your ISP. When properly set you should be able to see a straight line in Stats upload graph. If you set it too high the line will start to fluctuate and your downloads might suffer. Try for instance 1000kB/s, 900kB/s, 800kB/s, ... 200kB/s.

Your download speed, if not choked by your system, depends on other peers bandwidth, size of queues, their upload priorities, number of sources, your UL/DL ratio your session lenghts etc. And is limited by your Download limit.

[fox88]

Vaimok, on 28 October 2009 - 01:58 PM, said:

set Upload Limit in Options/Connection to a value below your available upload bandwidth provided by your ISP.

Standard recommendation is: do not go above 75-80% of available upload bandwidth. Online speed test can help to define the true bandwidth.
It should be added that quite often connection are not symmetric, therefore speed test is highly recommended.

Vaimok, on 28 October 2009 - 01:58 PM, said:

When properly set you should be able to see a straight line in Stats upload graph.

Usually it's true, but only if downloaders can receive all the data that your client can upload. It might be a problem to fill 100Mbit upload.

[qm2003]

First, the normal emule client is not particularily suited for high-speed internet connections for many reasons.
Maybe this will get better with fast internet connections becoming more common.
You should try out some of the emule mods with the slot focus feature here in the forum.

Second, you do not "download" from other people, they upload to you
and almost all of them will have negectable upload bandwidth compared to yours.

Certainly using a much higher upload bandwidht than the usual guy is able to will give you a significant boost in your average download speed, but forget "balancing" your upload and download speed.
You can press water out of stone only so much.

With such a fast connection you will have to carefully select downloads with lots of other clients able to upload at high(er) speed.
Since you can't tell those files from others via the emule search, joining ed2k release forums with experienced users might be a good idea.

This post has been edited by qm2003: 28 October 2009 - 11:37 AM

[Wulp]

You should really try to provide all the requested information ( http://forum.emule-p...showtopic=48111 point 5) as there are many possible influential factors, like connection limits, total source count, connected networks, servers, high/low ID/firewalled and so on.

While Upload speed limit surely beeing one of them you should do a speed test sooner or later. Just a hint: Usually you don't lose queue positions at your sources when you restart and reconnect within half an hour. But of course eMule needs to find the sources again for that. If for some reason it doesn't find them for your rare file after the restart, you can try to stop & restart the file to search again.

If you still find restarting too risky or as long as you are unsure about your upload capacity you can try with activating Upload Speed Sense in Options/ Extended. It tries to automatically reduce your upload speed to a reasonable limit so that it doesn't "clog" your line (can of course be combined with a manual UL limit).

This post has been edited by Wulp: 28 October 2009 - 03:08 PM

[hrmwrm]

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my total downloads in queue are 25 (6 active)... and I'm currently uploading to 22 peers

increase total downloads for more speed. it won't make any 1 faster, but will have more sources for more files.

[fox88]

ken1, on 28 October 2009 - 01:27 PM, said:

my total downloads in queue are 25 (6 active)

Do you mean that another 19 are stopped? If those are Waiting, then you do not use the word 'active' properly.
I'd say for 6 downloads 80-100KByte/s is good.
If you want to add more download, do not go add many more. Ususally the total number of active downloads should be kept below 40-50.

[Vaimok]

fox88, on 28 October 2009 - 11:25 AM, said:

Vaimok, on 28 October 2009 - 01:58 PM, said:

When properly set you should be able to see a straight line in Stats upload graph.

Usually it's true, but only if downloaders can receive all the data that your client can upload. It might be a problem to fill 100Mbit upload.

It sure can be, but it doesn't sound like ken1 has 100. Sounds more like the upload capacity is 8-10Mbps and that he is sharing rare files:

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- I get upload in the area of 700-800 and then my download is about 80-100

- it's the fact that being able to ul as fast as I can, my whole system performance take a hit regarding browsing the internet etc ..

- I constantly finding that the ul speed is way over 5-600

- my total downloads in queue are 25 (6 active)... and I'm currently uploading to 22 peers

This post has been edited by Vaimok: 30 October 2009 - 11:29 AM

[ken1]

fox88, on 28 October 2009 - 07:14 PM, said:

ken1, on 28 October 2009 - 01:27 PM, said:

my total downloads in queue are 25 (6 active)

Do you mean that another 19 are stopped? If those are Waiting, then you do not use the word 'active' properly.
I'd say for 6 downloads 80-100KByte/s is good.
If you want to add more download, do not go add many more. Ususally the total number of active downloads should be kept below 40-50.

Yes I am sorry I did use the word active wrongly ... 6 active and 19 waiting ...thanks

[ken1]

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fox88, on 28 October 2009 - 11:25 AM, said:

Vaimok, on 28 October 2009 - 01:58 PM, said:

When properly set you should be able to see a straight line in Stats upload graph.

Usually it's true, but only if downloaders can receive all the data that your client can upload. It might be a problem to fill 100Mbit upload.

It sure can be, but it doesn't sound like ken1 has 100. Sounds more like the upload capacity is 8-10Mbps and that he is sharing rare files:

[quote]

Oh I do have a 100megabit internet connection, believe me ... I know what I pay for, and being a MCP x 2 / CNA 4.11 etc .. I do now about
my connection. However I do NOT know very much at all about this topic or emule overall when it comes to settings and .. well basically how it works.
--- sweden has a lots of services offering 100mbit / sec Internet connections .... broadband was a major political issue 10yrs ago here ..

So with all do respect, I know my connection speed, but I am lost when it comes to all functions and bells and whistles in emule .. which btw is a wonderful program ...

Well I want to thank all of you for answering, being helpful .. there's alot to investigate from all of you ... I did lower the upload bar and it helped alot .. and now I have a little more understanding about it .. so I have to read more and thanks again you all for helping me..

you guys / gals rock !!

//Ken1