[fox88]

Semm, on 14 October 2009 - 12:30 AM, said:

that way you will loose all your download queue positions

Depends on the time passed since shutdown.

[Semm]

As far as I remember this is no matter of time and happens as soon as you reconnect to the nodes.
I think this behaviour was introduced because in the past people tried to get better queue positions by restarting the program.

[torpon]

How can you get better position in queues by restarting?

Cheers

[fox88]

Semm, on 14 October 2009 - 03:46 AM, said:

As far as I remember this is no matter of time and happens as soon as you reconnect to the nodes.

I see only two possibilities: either you were misinformed or your memory is failing.
In very basic form: eMule reasks sources at regular intervals; but there is no permanent connection.

Semm, on 14 October 2009 - 03:46 AM, said:

I think this behaviour was introduced because in the past people tried to get better queue positions by restarting the program.

You can try it whenever you like - even now; but you're doomed to fail.

This post has been edited by fox88: 14 October 2009 - 07:47 PM

[Semm]

torpon, on 14 October 2009 - 06:43 AM, said:

How can you get better position in queues by restarting?

No, I thought you would loose your queue positions after a restart, but it's different.
I had a look at it today and what happens is after a restart you might connect to different source-nodes and then have to start queuing again with the new nodes.

[ursula1000]

This post is vey interesting.

Thanks DavidGGG and Semm.

My little experience with Ipredator (only one week).

- My emule was downloading to 200 KB/s and with Ipredator up, down to 5 KB/s. My low id is high but is a fake because only connect to users with id high no with users with id low. Indeed, i restart emule and my new id is LOW.

- I think that they no offer port forwarding. Today i have sent them one email to ask for this.

- speedtest: before, 6 MB up & 320 KB/s with Ipredator: 3.2 MB/s & 280 KB/s


I will continue to report.

[ursula1000]

Now i am testin Anonine (thanks DavidGGG):

- in emule, my id is high BUT emule don't connect to clients with id low. Therefore my REAL ID is LOW.
- the results for emule are similar to Ipredator. Few connections and total downloading speed of 15 KB/s.

Why emule show me ID HIGH and then don't connect to clients with ID LOW. ??¿¿

[Cobra SA]

Great topic thanks DavidGGG

I am also very interested in a VPN
Keep the good work and let us know the best+cheaper VPN service

[Andrey23]

I now testing Anonine and can connect to LowID users.

[Cobra SA]

Andrey23, on 26 October 2009 - 04:45 PM, said:

I now testing Anonine and can connect to LowID users.

And can you connect to HighID users?

btw can anyone test this one
http://itshidden.com/

it's FREE!!

This post has been edited by Cobra SA: 27 October 2009 - 12:18 PM

[ephone]

VPN连接有多种方式！

[DavidGGG]

I've tried Anonine now for 2 weeks and it's been amazingly stable for 13 days (then this morning there were some small glitches and right now the entire anonine.com site is down.. but I hope they will get back up soon since they are my first choice now). I can get impressive speeds (200-400kB/s up&down or so), however sometimes it is slower. At such occasions restarting VPN often helps. I've seen this effect 4 times now so I know it's true, but Anonine support (who reply promptly but don't seem to know all tech stuff) have no explanation for it.

Some clarifications:
* VPNetMon is very fast, why don't you test it before you state it's not. And the risc up being visible a second or so per week I can take.
* Using a firewall properly set up is a great idea and better than a monitor program from several points of view, however it is not so easy and most firewalls can't separate your own IP from your VPN IP, and not all want to use the few that can (since Firewall choice entails more requirements than just VPN compatability) or care for changing firewall
* Strength of encryption is of very high importance, because this affects the safety of the connection from your PC to the VPN provider. For this connection, your own IP is used. The traffic from the VPN provider outwards (e g to eMule users) has the "anonymous IP" as protection, but no extra encryption (other than what you might have enabled e g in eMule)

It would also be nice to read definite statements which VPN providers that forward ports (and other vital info, like evaluation of speed and the owner's intentions on privacy). I've read now on 3 sites (not in English) that Relakks do not forward ports (and it does not say so on their site). Well they are too expensive anyway (€15/month). And I've found two more who do forward ports (not so cheap though): bananasecure.com (from $15/month, and they block torrent traffic!) and strongVPN.com (from $12/month)

[SchtroumpfPartageur]

Andu, on 18 May 2009 - 10:34 PM, said:

xylo9, on May 18 2009, 11:26 PM, said:

Surely there are ways to make every emule client behave that way, thus avoiding this proxy and this expense for everyone.

Yea there is but not without significant overhead. Meaning you have to expect global download speed to go down by at least 50%.

Or even worst ! I'm been using IPredator (15 $ for 3 months) for 3 months now, and I can tell you :
1) it's slow (in streaming you can't download at more than 160 Kb/s (20 Ko/s)
2) you can't use Torrent at all
3) you can use Emule but it's slow too... I haven't succeeded to go above 160 Kb/s (20 Ko/s)

Because I was disgusted by those poor results, I've subscribed to cryptocloud.com (15 $ / month) and the result is not great neither. The download speed in streaming is much better 1Mb/s (150 Ko/s), but it's impossible to use Emule or Bittorrent !

So, before being able to test, I was having great hopes in VPN, but I think it's not the solution if you want to download discretly using Emule/Edonkey or Bittorrent.

[Semm]

DavidGGG, on 31 October 2009 - 10:32 AM, said:

Some clarifications:
* VPNetMon is very fast, why don't you test it before you state it's not. And the risc up being visible a second or so per week I can take.
* Using a firewall properly set up is a great idea and better than a monitor program from several points of view, however it is not so easy and most firewalls can't separate your own IP from your VPN IP, and not all want to use the few that can (since Firewall choice entails more requirements than just VPN compatability) or care for changing firewall
* Strength of encryption is of very high importance, because this affects the safety of the connection from your PC to the VPN provider. For this connection, your own IP is used. The traffic from the VPN provider outwards (e g to eMule users) has the "anonymous IP" as protection, but no extra encryption (other than what you might have enabled e g in eMule)

It would also be nice to read definite statements which VPN providers that forward ports (and other vital info, like evaluation of speed and the owner's intentions on privacy). I've read now on 3 sites (not in English) that Relakks do not forward ports (and it does not say so on their site). Well they are too expensive anyway (€15/month). And I've found two more who do forward ports (not so cheap though): bananasecure.com (from $15/month, and they block torrent traffic!) and strongVPN.com (from $12/month)

If your firewall can't cope with IP-addresses you can also filter on MAC-addresses, since you'll get a virtual MAC-address while the PPTP-connection is online.
As I already wrote, theoretical issues about encryption strength don't matter at all if you simply want to hide from the RIAA and their lawyers, since they can't interfere your ISP's traffic and in case you want to use VPN for acts of terrorism or other crimes which would cause the secret service to monitor your traffic the VPN-provider would hand out your identity anyway. Furthermore PPTP-encryption is still very strong if you choose a long and complex password, since this directly affects the packet encryption strength.
Also Relakks DOES forward ALL ports and they are 5€ per month, not 15.

[SchtroumpfPartageur]

SchtroumpfPartageur, on 01 November 2009 - 12:51 PM, said:

I'm been using IPredator (15 $ for 3 months) for 3 months now, and I can tell you :
1) it's slow (in streaming you can't download at more than 160 Kb/s (20 Ko/s)
2) you can't use Torrent at all
3) you can use Emule but it's slow too... I haven't succeeded to go above 160 Kb/s (20 Ko/s)

Because I was disgusted by those poor results, I've subscribed to cryptocloud.com (15 $ / month) and the result is not great neither. The download speed in streaming is much better 1Mb/s (150 Ko/s), but it's impossible to use Emule or Bittorrent !

So, before being able to test, I was having great hopes in VPN, but I think it's not the solution if you want to download discretly using Emule/Edonkey or Bittorrent.

Update : The issue reported with cryptocloud.com seems to be, according to their support, a temporary issue they have since a few weeks but, usualy, it is possible to use Emule/Edonkey and Bittorrent.

Meanwhile, I tested a 3rd VPN service, highly recommended in other forums, and this one is indeed the best I've tested so far, even if it is the cheapest. It's anonine. It costs around 4 euros per month, and I'm able to use Emule/Edonkey and Bittorrent without issue because they do port forwarding for all the ports above 1024.
I'm not sure about the speed. It seems close to Ipredator in term of performance, except that bittorrent seems really faster in download. I've succeeded 300 Ko/sec. But, strangely, the streaming is still slow, around 20 Ko/sec ! Wired.

As far as I'm concerned, I seem to have found my provider of VPN !
I thought I should let you know in case you'd be wondering which one to try.

[Cobra SA]

I suscribed to anonine.com

With this VPN I could hit a peak of 1.0 MBps on a big torrent.
My usual peak is 1.3 MBps, that's an acceptable loss of bw IMO.

This post has been edited by Cobra SA: 06 November 2009 - 10:47 AM

[SchtroumpfPartageur]

Cobra SA, on 06 November 2009 - 11:46 AM, said:

I suscribed to anonine.com

With this VPN I could hit a peak of 1.0 MBps on a big torrent.
My usual peak is 1.3 MBps, that's an acceptable loss of bw IMO.

I agree that anonine is good with Bittorrent. It's clearly with Bittorrent that he shows its best speed, by far ! I've also reached speeds (reasonably) close to what I've got without VPN.

But as fas as I'm concerned, I don't use that much bittorent, so for me it's just too bad it has not the same speed, far from it, for direct download and Emule/Edonkey which, for me seem slow. It's not as bad as with the 2 others VPN I've tested, but it's way slower than without VPN.

But, having tested others, I continue to think that, even if anonine is not as great as I would have dreamt, it still is the one I prefer. I just hope they'll improve the speed for direct download and Emule/Edonkey... even if that means a price increase, I'm really to pay for a fast anonymous VPN.