[Dark Helmet]

I think everyone sooner or later downloaded a file and discovered it's not what he expected, but a porn video. And this happens when you stops to download porn just for a while.
My dilemma is: why? Why someone wastes time to mask a porn file as something different?

[Azjatos]

Because there are organizations that want to destroy emule

[SS1900]

http://forum.emule-p...ndpost&p=628895

[Dark Helmet]

Mh... ok, but why porn? Why not a zip with some garbage and a virus / malware, for example?

[xilolee]

Some users rename their files probably because someone else in their family uses their PC (the computer is shared in the family).
Or maybe they think , wrongly, to gain more credits and raising up their emule speed.

[Azjatos]

Viruses also hide from your family?
Viruses and pornography is to discourage people from Emule.
If time and the second downloading virus or pornographic movie then you say that emule is shit right?

Most people who manually looking for files do not mind.
You type Title of the film that is new, look you see a lot of sources, BDrip oh! this is it. Download and have a surprise.

[xilolee]

Question was:

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Why someone wastes time to mask a porn file as something different?

[Azjatos]

Yes, but pornography and viruses are part of the same puzzle.
The two things in common is undesirable.

This post has been edited by Azjatos: 08 March 2012 - 04:09 AM

[xilolee]

You should remember that porn files are "copyrighted".
Do organizations pro-copyright fight against p2p with "copyrighted" files???

[fox88]

You can keep guessing; there is a number of possibilities. But those who know the answer never told it.

[Azjatos]

xilolee, on 08 March 2012 - 08:53 PM, said:

You should remember that porn files are "copyrighted".
Do organizations pro-copyright fight against p2p with "copyrighted" files???

More or less. Never heard of placement of evidence?

Copyright is a coverup to control everything.
Request of Emule is such that it is not subject to any control. Emule is a serverless network and just
Turn off all the servers in order to lose any control.
Just enforce it in the new version. Build mechanism that verifies ( heuristic method ) compliance with file names of sources (This is for newbies) To limit mistakes because almost all fake files differ on the name.
And of course, build automatic Connecting to the KAD in default.

So the only way to fight in emule is a Trojan horse method to discourage people to emule would have gone to a network that is more controllable, for example, as a torrent.
You never wondered why the torrent is so fast?
Torrent is not perfect. There simply is less fakes so upload is not wasted.
Eweryone who send or download fake is like little trojan horse.
There is no better or worse network because the amount of download network has to equal the upload.
On the occasion of the official mod is almost leech! I wrote here a continuation of
http://forum.emule-p...howtopic=154653

All its users have the same connection (upload) and eMule users. So how its possible?
Or maybe ... someone "sponsors" torrent erecting fast servers?


If you still do not understand ... Well the conversation is not suitable for public forums.

[Dark Helmet]

xilolee, on 07 March 2012 - 03:16 PM, said:

Some users rename their files probably because someone else in their family uses their PC (the computer is shared in the family).
Or maybe they think , wrongly, to gain more credits and raising up their emule speed.

I can exlude #1. Why you should rename a porn as a copyrighted OS iso, for example?
#2 is realistic, but what about other p2p networks that not use a credit system and can search from users and not from servers like torrent (Gnutella, FastTrack, Retroshare, GNUnet)? If porn is masked even here, we can exclude this hypothesis.

@Azjatos: I agree with you emule has very little control against fakes, but torrent... do you ever visited a torrent site full of "sponsored" links?
About leeching, I think the most problem is emule users are not encouraged to share files. Ok, torrent is worse and emule have credit system. But I think the majority of people removes complete downloads from incoming folder, as by Napster times. In this manner you have a simil-horde system without any other upload. Why I should share other files in hopes of someone will reward me in the future? I don't like horde system, but I think if emule will give more credits to users that are uploading to me now, people is not so tempted to remove completed files.
Anyway we are off-topic, you can send me a PM if you like.

This post has been edited by Dark Helmet: 09 March 2012 - 10:37 PM

[xilolee]

Dark Helmet, on 09 March 2012 - 11:33 PM, said:

I can exlude #1. Why you should rename a porn as a copyrighted OS iso, for example?

Because their family's members can't see the real name

Perhaps another possibility is that there are false servers or bad mods that modify the filenames?

This post has been edited by xilolee: 10 March 2012 - 11:19 AM

[Dark Helmet]

For #1, it could be, but you find porn masked as another video! It could be, but IMO it's not the primary cause.

For #2, What about other networks? I quote myself:

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what about other p2p networks that not use a credit system and can search from users and not from servers like torrent (Gnutella, FastTrack, Retroshare, GNUnet)? If porn is masked even here, we can exclude this hypothesis.

I noticed that even not so much spreaded files have masked porn files as fakes.

[xilolee]

I can think only those 3 possibilities...

[Azjatos]

@ Dark Helmet.
I do not mean emule has very little control against fakes ( that is fact also ) but some organizations who has very little control against Emule so try destroy it.
And Beacuse this is serveless network the only thing who destroy emule is users itself.
That Means anyone who download fake is little trojan horse. So I called it Trojan Horse method. Obviously unhappy user leave a network in future.

[Dark Helmet]

@Azjatos: Well, by now I use utorrent as much as possible indeed
Anyway I think hypothesis #2 of xilolee is realistic - users rename them to collect credits. Not a brilliant idea IMHO...

The question is: users on LimeWire, for example, have this problem? LimeWire has decentralized searches but no credit system, as far as I know.

• if yes, we can exclude this hypothesis
  
• if no, this hypothesis is more realistic

[Azjatos]

Most Limeware websites is closed at now including official ofcourse.
But gnutella network is full of garbage to.

Users rename files? For what? For collect credits of users who possibly do not have the necessary files? simply of that, just in case?

The Mechanism is Simply.
You rename porn as Windows, Excel, office, GTA, Correl or any popular software. Number of sources increases and everyone is happy Until the Download is end.
You Try Again with the same resolt. And Again. Every time You a part this game and finally switch the torrent on.

We Have Tons of shit, we have viruses which themselves Switching On emule And Downloading Porn
see this post : http://forum.emule-p...howtopic=154642
We Have Tons of shit in Gnutella network to. Just try if you dont' believe me.

So What other examples need?

[UserEmule]

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xilolee, on 08 March 2012 - 08:53 PM, said:

You never wondered why the torrent is so fast?

All its users have the same connection (upload) and eMule users. So how its possible?
Or maybe ... someone "sponsors" torrent erecting fast servers?

Torrents are fast because people usually download/share 4-5 torrents at a time and their bandwidth depending on how they have it set is divided upon those 4-5 torrents. Ed2k/kad users share some 1-2k files or more and since they are uploading many files at once (more than 4-5) and the files upload used to be 9.5 chunks unless its a rare file or u have it set to "release" or horde (such as overnet has) but kad is called something different such as possibly swarm where it downloads/uploads to the user simultaneously where it partners with client to get file downloaded faster.

Many people used to rent servers to run their ed2k/kad client and even overnet. Since torrent went mainstream and many services set up for that, people just rented servers for their torrent and some are called seedboxes. There are many for emule also but you have to look around or install your own on the servers. I was downloading a public torrent yesterday and the avg speed was 972KB. I was only downloading at 110KB but decided to look because it was packing momentum and I was like wow.

[UserEmule]

Dark Helmet, on 07 March 2012 - 05:08 AM, said:

Mh... ok, but why porn? Why not a zip with some garbage and a virus / malware, for example?

Yes many people will download or upload files and put a trojan in them. I simply remove the trojan,and put it in shared folder and call the file "whatever filename it is trojan removed. Ppl should do this too so the trojan doesn't spread and people can see the difference in files as they are searching etc.