[OpiatedMadman]

There used to be one in the eMule beginner's guide, but the link has been removed...

[Nissenice]

OpiatedMadman, on Nov 1 2007, 05:05 PM, said:

There used to be one in the eMule beginner's guide, but the link has been removed...

http://www.gruk.org/list.php

and/or

http://www.peerates....ates/index.html

[xscarab]

I'm using http://peerates.net/...fiedservers.met and http://peerates.net/...trueservers.met when i think my serverlist looks a bit thin (I don't have any update options ticked)
Also, gruk is still being recommended by some.

see trebla's guide for more url's (and serverlist maintenance)

[OpiatedMadman]

Alright, thanks a lot guys.

[Some Support]

OpiatedMadman, on Nov 1 2007, 05:05 PM, said:

There used to be one in the eMule beginner's guide, but the link has been removed...

Actually there still is a link in the beginenrs guide which links to the "addresses to udpate your server.met" page which was updated just yesterday.

[ElChele]

Hi everyone
Server List for eDonkey2000, it's full of fake servers.
TheDonkeyNetwork don't work, at least for me and tonight.
bye

[johnpe]

you should try http://list.edonkey.to

[ElChele]

It's a Server lists enough clean, few servers, but good ones.
Thanks for the information.
bye

[Peerates]

hi,

xscarab, on Nov 1 2007, 05:23 PM, said:

I'm using "http://peerates.net/peerates/certifiedservers.met" and "http://peerates.net/peerates/trueservers.met"

please,
try to don't use this 2 lists anymore time, because in few days, these won't be updated, then deleted from the website.

for now and later, instead the two old previous metafiles, you can use this adress in your emule configuration :
http://www.peerates.net/servers.php

the 2 old lists are updated now in one only 'good' servers list, named 'peerates servers list', wich include all and only the fully functionnal servers.

New :
You can use now this site : http://edk.peerates.net, with this web interface to make your servers choice dynamically or to get more information about edonkey servers.

keep in mind this site is already a 'beta version'.
have fun.



Jean-roger Peerates.

[xscarab]

Peerates, on Nov 2 2007, 05:49 AM, said:

for now and later, instead the two old previous metafiles, you can use this adress in your emule configuration :
http://www.peerates.net/servers.php

cheers! my AC_ServerMetURLs.dat is duly updated

[coluche]

Some Support, on Nov 1 2007, 08:45 PM, said:

Actually there still is a link in the beginenrs guide which links to the "addresses to udpate your server.met" page which was updated just yesterday.

Is there a special reason that Server List for eDonkey2000 (=ed2k.has.it) is kept in the official online help pages?
It redirects to http://ed2k.2x4u.de/index.html and if I understand this correctly one ends up with at least 62 servers including all kinds of wmule and alike.
Almost every server topic in this forum advises to avoid that kind of serverlist.

It is present in German / English / French and who knows in what other languages online help.
It is NOT present in spanish online help

This post has been edited by coluche: 02 November 2007 - 11:00 AM

[Sam Hamwich]

If you currently have servers in your list, use IP Filter from http://www.bluetack....ipfilter.dat.gz and reload every Monday of each week.
If you have no servers in your list, then get one from either of the fine sites remcommended above.

[ElChele]

Peerates said:

New :
You can use now this site : http://edk.peerates.net, with this web interface to make your servers choice dynamically or to get more information about edonkey servers.

Good news, thank'u Peerates
BTW, I missed an "See the List " option.
bye

[Nissenice]

Peerates, on Nov 2 2007, 06:49 AM, said:

New :
You can use now this site : http://edk.peerates.net, with this web interface to make your servers choice dynamically or to get more information about edonkey servers.

keep in mind this site is already a 'beta version'.
have fun.

That's great! Thanks!

[ElChele]

@ Peerates.
BTW.......

66.090.073.253 - (FKS) FDC Servers.net, LLC 
66.135.034.198 - (FKS) ServerBeach

They are allready listed here, and IPfiltered.
Please, consider to remove them, from your list.
Thank in advance.
bye

[Peerates]

hi,

ElChele, on Nov 3 2007, 12:12 AM, said:

66.090.073.253 - (FKS) FDC Servers.net, LLC 
66.135.034.198 - (FKS) ServerBeach

They are allready listed here, and IPfiltered.
remove them, from your list.

why ?
If you give me a 'good' reason, i will do that.

These servers provide sources ip and results for a search request.
perhaps you are right, but i need a reason to mark these two servers as bad ...
and i already got mail contact with the x.x.x.253:8899 dserver admin, he seems not to be a RIAA's "man in black" !

perl processes wich auto-analyze a server mark it as bad only if ;

-server don't provide valid result after a search file request.
-server don't provide source IP for a dl.
-server don't provide result after an udp requests

-server spam bad udp results, after a specific search.
(like the 2/3 akimoto/NL servers (x.x.x.131) for example)

-server don't allow users connexion.
(like switzerland 82.130.102.218, wich display 549,994 users, but always unable to be connected)

-server is suspected for its anbiguous owners
(like main movie server for example, but i have not a real information about this fact and their owners don't communicate ... so, they keep the 'bad servers' category ... however, the main movie and second movie dservers are fully functionnal, and for example, gruk list consider them as good.)

and if these two servers are 'unclean' and powered by RIAA supporters, they participate to the illicit exchanges ... I don't think their customers like it, and none of knowed MD servers are functional.

so, the reason can't be only the ipfilter.dat reference, and my idea is ipfilter is not a good thing, because it doesn't really protect the user ; ipfilter or not, the user IP can be 'trapped' and the shared content can be know by the 'digital sherifs' who are looking for a particular shared song or movie.

ipfilter can be efficient only if it include all internet ip ranges ...

But i know one possible way to protect p2p users from problems ;
don't download copyrighted files !

emule content database, ratiatum 'download community', jamendo files pool, ect ...
edonkey p2P licit contents is not only a concept ; it's a reality, and in this view of things (legal stuff exchanges), we don't need to protect our p2p usage ... and i think in one year, or two, the majors position will change about p2p : because they can't fight p2p, one day, they will take it to build a new bussiness model and get more money.

have a good day with you mule.

This post has been edited by Peerates: 03 November 2007 - 09:20 AM

[ElChele]

I am not going to try to convince you, with argues; among other things, because that those two servers, already are in ipfilter, reason why emule, does not add them, to the list of servers.
And, ipfilter it's useful, at least for me.
And when the servers, ISPs, authorities, goverments, laws, or somebody, force me or say me what I should download and who not, really dear friend, I forguet P2P.
I am not willing to mortgage my freedom, anything before to lose my freedom to think, and to act.

bye

[Peerates]

ElChele, on Nov 3 2007, 11:09 AM, said:

I am not going to try to convince you, with argues; among other things, because that those two servers, already are in ipfilter, reason why emule, does not add them, to the list of servers.
And, ipfilter it's useful, at least for me.

when i talk about ipfilter, i don't want to say it's a bad tool.
i just think it's not a 'good' tool to protect users wich are downloading illicit stuff.
but it can be useful for other case. (filtering spammers ip range, for example, if static.)

since longtime, i never use ipfilter.dat and i never got any problem.
(for now, more of 10 debian mldonkey sessions wich run 24/24, without ipfilter.dat, with 3 differents (french) ISP cnx)

I can't use dedicated servers, like dedibox or OVH, to do that, because many of these IP addresses ranges are ipfiltered ...
(but i use a clean servers list ... )

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And when the servers, ISPs, authorities, goverments, laws, or somebody, force me or say me what I should download and who not, really dear friend, I forguet P2P.

+1
this is the p2p first thing ; the user freedom.
i don't want to say illicit download is a 'bad' thing ... the users do what they want !
i'am not a censor and i use p2p too ;-) but just think ipfilter.dat is not a 'ideal or total' protection and even can be badly in some case. (for example, some 'good' servers are ipfiltered. or people can think if a server ip is in ipfilter.dat, so, the server is bad.)

++

[Sam Hamwich]

I have 2 of your server URLs in my update queue, http://peerates.net/...fiedservers.met and http://peerates.net/...trueservers.met.

The others are http://http://eservl....org/server.met and http://www.severedfisch.com/server.met.

I find it odd that you never had a problem by not using IP Filter. I see that your current list contains 30 servers, however when I use the filter, the list is pruned down to 15, which means that half of the servers in your list are not Bluetack approved. What do you use for scanning and checking your lists?

[Peerates]

Sam Hamwich, on Nov 3 2007, 01:11 PM, said:

the list is pruned down to 15, which means that half of the servers in your list are not Bluetack approved.

what is the bluetack reason to add a server ip in the ipfilter file ?
the reason seems to be only the ip range ...

why the 66.90.73.253 server is in the file ?
it's not a faked or bad server ...
this server is 100% okay for a dl or a search, and don't provide false 'spammed' udp results.
and server admin / owner want to be removed of ipfilter ...

so, what is the bluetack reason to include this server ip in the ipfilter.dat ?
peerates.net give a reason when a server is in the bad server list ...

see the report, for example the faked servers list page, all referenced servers in this list are not efficient, and the reason why is clearly written.

another example of ipfilter potential problem, these 2 servers ip 212.179.18.132/142 tcp4232 are not include in the last ipfilter.dat ...

for peerates.net process, these two servers are not fully functionnal, they don't return any search result.

but for bluetack, it is two 'good' servers ?
because one ip in same range is ipfiltered ... 212.179.18.138

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What do you use for scanning and checking your lists?

the servers are checked by some perl processes, and with mlnet.
the list are checked with perl script wich get info about servers in the peerates.net db, builded by the previous perl processes.

This post has been edited by Peerates: 03 November 2007 - 06:25 PM