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#1 User is offline   BullHorn 

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Posted 26 September 2007 - 03:20 PM

Hey guys, I'm new here and to eMule. Even though I have been using it for years, I haven't really bothered understanding the difference between different mods.

For some reason, people tell me not to use mods because of x.
Other people tell me not to use the default eMule-Project version for reason y.


Can you guys please bust all the myths? Tell me something. :)


Could be awesome if I could see a real-time statistic of the amount of people connected through each client/mod.

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Posted 26 September 2007 - 03:36 PM

the right section to discuss this should be the MOD SECTION :)

a mod is "necessary" only when you need FUNCTIONALITIES that aren't in the official emule but are present in the mods...

if you do not miss things in the official emule that are present in the single mods, then you do not need a mod :D

read this thread to see what does the mods adds over official emule:
http://forum.emule-p...showtopic=83054

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Posted 26 September 2007 - 03:48 PM

Thanks alot for the quick reply, I'll read on now.

Also, I hear people download at speeds over 100kb/s, but I hardly get to 50kb/s rarely (Mind you, if I torrent, I can get to 310kb/s...). How do they do it?
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Posted 26 September 2007 - 03:56 PM

Rarely a Mod can influence your download speed (except using webcache). Diferences between Official and Mod usually lies in the way, method of upload.

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#5 User is offline   BullHorn 

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Posted 26 September 2007 - 04:02 PM

All I really need is just to be sure that I am safe against fake uploaders, servers and leechers.

Can that be done with the official mod?
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Posted 26 September 2007 - 05:14 PM

An Emule mod give the illision of faster downloads because it attempts to cheat the credit system. Use only the official version 0.48a. Another reason is that Emule Technical Help does not support mods.
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Posted 26 September 2007 - 05:20 PM

Thanks for disregarding the work that we mod supporters put into helping people with our mods. Besides no officially sanctioned mod would cheat the credit system.

Mods have some systems that are meant to help with leechers. Fake servers are pretty much your own responsibility. Get a decent server list from gruk.org/list.php and don't let your mule gather servers through clients or servers and you should be good.
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Posted 26 September 2007 - 08:43 PM

View PostAndu, on Sep 26 2007, 01:20 PM, said:

Thanks for disregarding the work that we mod supporters put into helping people with our mods. Besides no officially sanctioned mod would cheat the credit system.

Mods have some systems that are meant to help with leechers. Fake servers are pretty much your own responsibility. Get a decent server list from gruk.org/list.php and don't let your mule gather servers through clients or servers and you should be good.


What a bunch of bullcrap! I've never seen an Emule modification that performed more efficiently than the current version. Using a mod is asking for problems and taking a very big risk of adware and virus infection and getting banned from servers. Use the real thing and avoid trouble.
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Posted 26 September 2007 - 08:50 PM

ehm, mods published HERE are generally ok..

the problem is with the crap closed source that you can find around...

mod here have many many many usefull things... but that are usefull only if you need them...
for example in this case antileecher is generally deeper developed into mods then in the official..
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Posted 26 September 2007 - 09:11 PM

View PostSam Hamwich, on Sep 26 2007, 10:43 PM, said:

View PostAndu, on Sep 26 2007, 01:20 PM, said:

Thanks for disregarding the work that we mod supporters put into helping people with our mods. Besides no officially sanctioned mod would cheat the credit system.

Mods have some systems that are meant to help with leechers. Fake servers are pretty much your own responsibility. Get a decent server list from gruk.org/list.php and don't let your mule gather servers through clients or servers and you should be good.


What a bunch of bullcrap! I've never seen an Emule modification that performed more efficiently than the current version. Using a mod is asking for problems and taking a very big risk of adware and virus infection and getting banned from servers. Use the real thing and avoid trouble.


If you've been using eMule longer than I've been using eMule mods I'll take your opinion under consideration. Until then I consider you a newb and your posts as a personal insult.
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Posted 26 September 2007 - 09:17 PM

:lol:

@Sam Hamwich : you should not download eMule mods from www.riaa.com/ :D :P



as others said, Mods should be reserved to thoses who knows what to do about them, and what for using them

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#12 User is offline   Sam Hamwich 

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Posted 27 September 2007 - 03:14 AM

View PostAndu, on Sep 26 2007, 05:11 PM, said:

View PostSam Hamwich, on Sep 26 2007, 10:43 PM, said:

View PostAndu, on Sep 26 2007, 01:20 PM, said:

Thanks for disregarding the work that we mod supporters put into helping people with our mods. Besides no officially sanctioned mod would cheat the credit system.

Mods have some systems that are meant to help with leechers. Fake servers are pretty much your own responsibility. Get a decent server list from gruk.org/list.php and don't let your mule gather servers through clients or servers and you should be good.


What a bunch of bullcrap! I've never seen an Emule modification that performed more efficiently than the current version. Using a mod is asking for problems and taking a very big risk of adware and virus infection and getting banned from servers. Use the real thing and avoid trouble.


If you've been using eMule longer than I've been using eMule mods I'll take your opinion under consideration. Until then I consider you a newb and your posts as a personal insult.


That's up to you, take as you will. I don't know how long you've used mods, but Emule has never disappointed me. What you use is your own business.
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Posted 27 September 2007 - 03:16 AM

View PostMadlyMad, on Sep 26 2007, 05:17 PM, said:

:lol:

@Sam Hamwich : you should not download eMule mods from www.riaa.com/ :D :P



as others said, Mods should be reserved to thoses who knows what to do about them, and what for using them

:angelnot:


Yes, very amusing. If you recommend a mod for me to try, I'm willing to check it out.
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Posted 27 September 2007 - 08:18 AM

View PostSam Hamwich, on Sep 27 2007, 05:14 AM, said:

That's up to you, take as you will. I don't know how long you've used mods, but Emule has never disappointed me. What you use is your own business.


I've been using mods since end of 2002. On and off at the beginning but they always had stuff to offer me that the official didn't. It's still the same now. Why do you think I'm a Morph team member now? Probably not because I think that mods are useless.
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Posted 27 September 2007 - 08:51 AM

Well technically yes they can cheat the system but that is only if used wrongly mind you so can the offical client. If the mods are used as designed then no they don't. After all they are only tools and as with any tool if used in a way it is not designed to it can be bad. Credit shaping is after all what is the most common way to cheat the credit system. Luckily though as the mods have gone on and improved over the versions this has become more and more difficult. This is to do with their being a credit system and not that the mods posted here being deisgned to cheat it. I have never understood the reason for a credit system and think it should be gotten rid of but that is a different topic altogether.

I use morphxt for example because I tend to specialise in rare files. The powershare utility is a great boon and I cycle through my shared and give them all a few days in powershare. Now in the earlier days you could ps a incomplete file and credit shape, now you can't effectively killing off credit shaping with this mod.

Sam I have to disagree I use a mod for many years now starting with sf and in upload they have outperformed the official by leaps and bounds. It is about choosing the right one and getting the settings correct. With mods the settings are more complicated than with the official and this is where some mess up. It took me a little messing about to figure out how to use both of them. Mods are not meant to optimise downloads but to optimise uploads. This means they are not realy for the average user who is more concerned with downloads but for releasers and ddedicated uploaders.

Bullhorn. I have gone above the mythical 100kB/s on occassion. What you have to remember is that the average download speed can never exceed the average upload speed as bandwidth does not come out of thin air. When I am downloading, which is not often as I tend to upload more than I download you should se my ul:dl ratio it is quite a mad number. I average out at 30-40kB/s download my upload is 40kB/s as my upload is 452kb/s, therefore my average works out right and I am morethan happy with it.
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Posted 27 September 2007 - 09:46 AM

I only say:
NatTraversal
VooDoo
Source Storage
Much better upload
NeoLoader is a new file sharing client, supporting ed2k/eMule, Bittorent and one click hosters,
it is the first client to be able to download form multiple networks the same file.
NL provides the first fully decentralized scalable torrent and DDL keyword search,
it implements an own novel anonymous file sharing network, providing anonymity and deniability to its users,
as well as many other new features.
It is written in C++ with Qt and is available for Windows, Linux and MacOS.
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Posted 27 September 2007 - 10:11 AM

imo the biggest impact has the better upload features of the mods, plain 3kb/s upload slots maybe sufficient with 128kb/s upload lines, but for "bigger pipes"
its annoying till counterproductive.

Sam Hamwich is right imho if he means emule modifications found on some "elite" or Leecherboards, those are in fact most of the time discriminating others
or full of backdoors and such.

but any mod listed here on this forum in the modsection should be fine to go.
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Posted 27 September 2007 - 12:11 PM

View PostMadlyMad, on Sep 26 2007, 09:17 PM, said:

as others said, Mods should be reserved to thoses who knows what to do about them, and what for using them
Some Mod had objective to be more simple than official (beba and warp actually, but there are other before)
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Posted 27 September 2007 - 02:52 PM

well... i cant live without anit-lechers options and anothers features from mods :flowers:
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Posted 27 September 2007 - 03:07 PM

View PostSam Hamwich, on Sep 27 2007, 05:16 AM, said:

View PostMadlyMad, on Sep 26 2007, 05:17 PM, said:

:lol:

@Sam Hamwich : you should not download eMule mods from www.riaa.com/ :D :P



as others said, Mods should be reserved to thoses who knows what to do about them, and what for using them

:angelnot:


Yes, very amusing. If you recommend a mod for me to try, I'm willing to check it out.

you do not understand, once again, it depends what you need !
if you dont need anything more than what is in official then it's OK, the official is fine for you !

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