[niclights]

We're currently looking at possibly 4/5 working servers (with IP Filter) following recent failures which may or may not be permanent.

While this isn't good, there doesn't appear to be a problem with capacity. I can always connect to them. Perhaps it's because many users are using fakes, but it's not important for sources as long as they connect to Kad also.

So we look ever closer to that inevitability of using Kad only. With the exception of users that struggle with UDP it shouldn't be a problem. When/if the time comes it will be interesting to see how it copes.

[murphys]

moloko+, on Jul 22 2008, 11:25 PM, said:

murphys, on Jul 23 2008, 08:06 AM, said:

...

http://www.yousendit...zTmE4NVh2Wmc9PQ

That link is broken

it worked yesterday
so here it is again:
http://www.yousendit...1Y3lwaFN4dnc9PQ

[murphys]

niclights, on Jul 22 2008, 11:26 PM, said:

We're currently looking at possibly 4/5 working servers (with IP Filter) following recent failures which may or may not be permanent.

While this isn't good, there doesn't appear to be a problem with capacity. I can always connect to them. Perhaps it's because many users are using fakes, but it's not important for sources as long as they connect to Kad also.

So we look ever closer to that inevitability of using Kad only. With the exception of users that struggle with UDP it shouldn't be a problem. When/if the time comes it will be interesting to see how it copes.

hi
im not sure i understood. what u say is that servers list wont be relevant soon?
im also connected to KAD but it seems to work automatically, there is no server list for it and url to update servers from.
mayb im missing something with working with KAD or is it really that automatic?

[qm2003]

In order to get into KAD you have to know someone who is already on the inside.
Emule will check all its know clients if they can get you into KAD.

Up until recently, downloading something and connecting to a server was an easy and straightforward way of meeting new clients.
With the demise of ed2k servers, downloading server lists will be replaced by downloading current node lists, with clients already connected to KAD. Some old serverlist download sites are already offering the download of 'nodes.dat'.



When you think about it, all this is very similar to getting invites into private trackers.

This post has been edited by qm2003: 23 July 2008 - 07:49 AM

[murphys]

qm2003, on Jul 23 2008, 08:48 AM, said:

In order to get into KAD you have to know someone who is already on the inside.
Emule will check all its know clients if they can get you into KAD.

Up until recently, downloading something and connecting to a server was an easy and straightforward way of meeting new clients.
With the demise of ed2k servers, downloading server lists will be replaced by downloading current node lists, with clients already connected to KAD. Some old serverlist download sites are already offering the download of 'nodes.dat'.



When you think about it, all this is very similar to getting invites into private trackers.

ok, so if im "connected" to kad, it's enough for me to know that all my searches (server (global)) and downloads are performed also on KAD?
i just want to be sure that i wont find myself, at some point, locked outside with no way of getting in :-)

[xscarab]

murphys, on Jul 23 2008, 01:31 PM, said:

ok, so if im "connected" to kad, it's enough for me to know that all my searches (server (global)) and downloads are performed also on KAD?

Maybe you've not expressed yourself properly there but, no, you can't do global server searches with Kad, you can only do a Kad search with Kad. As long as you are connected to at least one of the networks, (kad or ed2k servers) you'll still be able to download. Whether or not you'll find the same sources or get the same sort of search results is something that remains to be seen. I found Kad to be quite hopeless at searching last night, compared to a global server search, so I hope it does better with finding sources than it does searching. But I know some people have no trouble finding what they need with Kad searches. And some people have been happy to use Kad only for some time now.

I believe another server (emule serverlist Nr2) just bit the dust, so my global server and server searches aren't returning any results at all right now (I have just usenext.to left in my list)

[murphys]

i will ask it differently
if i found something and started to download it, will it also download it from KAD automatically (assuming im connected to KAD)?

[fox88]

murphys, on Jul 24 2008, 12:34 AM, said:

i will ask it differently
if i found something and started to download it, will it also download it from KAD automatically (assuming im connected to KAD)?

May I answer differently? You do not download neither from servers nor from KAD. All file data exchange goes directly between peers.

[moloko+]

murphys, on Jul 24 2008, 06:34 AM, said:

i will ask it differently
if i found something and started to download it, will it also download it from KAD automatically (assuming im connected to KAD)?

Kad is another way to connect to the network, so yes.

/edit: fox88 beat me to it...

This post has been edited by moloko+: 23 July 2008 - 08:39 PM

[mss73]

One of the ideas is to include ip:port (host name) to the ed2k link, if you post it in forums/sites/etc.
So anyone can bootstrap from this client...

This post has been edited by mss73: 24 July 2008 - 11:10 PM

[torpon]

That's right if you are still connected, your public ip hasn't changed, and you don't worry about your ip and port been known by every people who gets that ed2k link.

Cheers

This post has been edited by torpon: 25 July 2008 - 05:04 PM

[murphys]

someone here actually downloads sth using emule in the last 2-3 days?
my servers list is almost empty, i can only connect to a server with 8m files (i used to connect to servers with over 100m files). and even that, nothing downloads. searching gives me some results but when clicking the download, sources are all 0 (zeros) and nothing is actually downloaded/

i tried searching using KAD but it doesnt find anything (im connected to it, unless im doing sth wrong), so all i can say is: emule is dead here, someone here actually uses emule and succeeded with downloading anything?

[Nissenice]

murphys, on Jul 26 2008, 10:02 PM, said:

so all i can say is: emule is dead here, someone here actually uses emule and succeeded with downloading anything?

erm... like no...










Just kidding!!! Business as usual!

[murphys]

so can u share with us all what r u doing?
i want BAU as well

[xscarab]

@ murphys - which server are you connected to - its name and its IP ?

edit: you are aware that we have very few good working servers atm and you've followed a guide such as trebla's in quick help & guides to minimize your chances of getting fake servers?

I've been downloading "normally" too in the last few days.

This post has been edited by xscarab: 26 July 2008 - 09:07 PM

[murphys]

this is how my servers list looks like
http://www.yousendit...wY3lVVG14dnc9PQ

[torpon]

It was easier answer the question "which server are you connected to - its name and its IP ?" than uploading an image and writing an url that don't get directly the image.

Cheers

[murphys]

i also wanted to show the short list of servers
so now u saw the list - do u have an answer for me?

[moloko+]

eDonkeyServer No1 & No2
ed2k://|server|77.247.178.244|4242|/
ed2k://|server|77.247.178.245|4242|/

Are up.

/edit: And...

Sharing Kingdom 4
ed2k://|server|89.248.172.90|4500|/

This post has been edited by moloko+: 27 July 2008 - 05:57 AM

[niclights]

Please use an image hosting site such as imageshack in the future. Noone wants to have to download and then view a file.

Bootvirus is unknown to me & so I would consider it fake.

Sharing Kingdom are in the lists and found to be operating correctly but their IP's are in filter lists so you should bear that in mind.

UseNext does not publish my shared files. Some confirm this behaviour, others are contradictory.

Peerates only publishes specific files.

TVU definitely ok.