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Posted 31 January 2007 - 05:58 PM

Someone over at the Phoenixlabs forum (peerguardian) posted a link to a website ( http://www.peerates.net ) offering a hourly updated

Certified servers list, guaranteed fake-free.
ed2k://|serverlist|http://peerates.net/peerates/certifiedservers.met|/


Right now this list includes 6 Donkeyservers, 3 Bytedevils, 13 Big Bangs and 3 other servers.
Together 25 "certified" servers.

Their "no-fake" list has 53 servers.
ed2k://|serverlist|http://peerates.net/peerates/trueservers.met|/



Don't get me wrong, i don't question their intention, as far as i can tell, the lists are valid.

Does someone know how they "certify" servers and keep them "certified" ?
Do they know something we don't or are they just guessing and making things up ?

Anyhow, another alternative source for serverlists.


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Posted 31 January 2007 - 06:22 PM

Hi

I hope these topics will answer some of your questions, but maybe you already have read them.

http://forum.emule-p...howtopic=119955
http://forum.emule-p...howtopic=119929

This post has been edited by Nissenice: 31 January 2007 - 06:23 PM

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Posted 31 January 2007 - 06:39 PM

Ok, busted. :blink:

Thanks for providing those links, continuing there, if needed.



Damn, i knew i forgot something.
Like, "searching" ... ;)
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Posted 01 February 2007 - 02:15 PM

Whenever I see that word "certified", the hair on the back of my neck stands up too ;)

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Posted 01 February 2007 - 02:29 PM

View PostDick_Manitoba, on Feb 1 2007, 03:15 PM, said:

Whenever I see that word "certified", the hair on the back of my neck stands up too ;)



I think "evaluated" could have been a better word. Certification is supposed to be done by a well known authority. And that respect peerates still has to gather. The idea is however better than the current gruk.org who just provide the server list and do not tell how they gathered it.
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Posted 02 February 2007 - 04:25 AM

View Postleuk_he, on Feb 1 2007, 03:29 PM, said:

I think "evaluated" could have been a better word.


:worthy:
you're right one more time.
'guenine' will be changed for 'checked'
'certified' will be changed for 'powerful' ...

now, i do not provide the .met files for 'all' and 'fakes' servers lists,
but the content of these files is showed in a text file.

next, i think to publish an analysis page for each others met files i know.
(corpo,gruk,ocb maurice, server-list.de, ect ...)
because somes faked server ip are already provided by these lists.
at this time, only the ocb-maurice 'best servers' list is really clean.

thank's 4 yours comments.
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This post has been edited by Peerates: 02 February 2007 - 04:50 AM

get the peerates servers list http://edk.peerates.net
find eDonkey link on the web http://googler.peerates.net
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Posted 07 February 2007 - 04:17 PM

Hi.

This page display several servers lists which provide edonkey servers adresses.
http://www.peerates....tes/others.html

As you see, most of these lists are provided with faked servers.
(in fact, only 3 lists are really clean.)

About this :

nota bene
-''not faked' do not means 'sure' -> a 'good' server can spying users too.
-'faked' do not means 'dangerous' -> some of 'faked' servers returns 0% of valid result for a file (or/and sources) search, perhaps only for the law respect in concerned country. (if server do not provide valid response for licenced stuff, in france for example, it can't be attacked by the law. so , this type of server is not really dangerous, but it doesn't contribute for any thing on the donkey network, and i think it's better to not use them for a best network use.)


but some of these faked servers are powered by the 'p2p' ennemies ...
so, we have to be careful and, if possible, use only 'good' servers in our client software.

today, at least 60% of edonkey servers are faked.
If we want cleaning our network of this pollution, all users must use good servers lists.

and OCB-Maurice provide a good list too ...
(THC powered ... but clean. :-))
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get the peerates servers list http://edk.peerates.net
find eDonkey link on the web http://googler.peerates.net
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Posted 09 February 2007 - 10:54 AM

View PostPeerates, on Feb 7 2007, 05:17 PM, said:

This page display several servers lists which provide edonkey servers adresses.
http://www.peerates....tes/others.html

As you see, most of these lists are provided with faked servers.
(in fact, only 3 lists are really clean.)
Hello,

What is the fake server in gruk and jd2k list ?
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Posted 09 February 2007 - 11:55 AM

View PostFirnus, on Feb 9 2007, 11:54 AM, said:

View PostPeerates, on Feb 7 2007, 05:17 PM, said:

This page display several servers lists which provide edonkey servers adresses.

What is the fake server in gruk and jd2k list ?


Ships computers, aka search, show that one of the 2 links provided by Nissenice contains at least the following :

http://www.peerates....ruk-server.html

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Localization : http://www.gruk.org/server.met
Presumed FAKED : 88.191.39.23:4321 -> indexation score : 0%
Presumed FAKED : 84.160.89.44:50135 -> indexation score : 0%
Presumed FAKED : 83.149.116.231:4242 -> indexation score : 0%
Invalid server IP : 203.121.79.54:4321
Presumed FAKED : 193.138.231.210:4242 -> indexation score : 0%
Invalid server IP : 87.150.12.220:9661
Presumed FAKED : 88.191.40.239:4321 -> indexation score : 0%
Presumed FAKED : 203.121.79.53:4321 -> indexation score : 0%
Invalid server IP : 87.150.14.147:9661
Presumed FAKED : 83.149.116.131:4242 -> indexation score : 0%
Server IP : 80.190.240.125:4661 -> indexation score : 40%


The meaning of the indexation score is encrypted with a Cardassion recursive encryption method.

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Posted 11 February 2007 - 07:01 AM

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meaning of the indexation score ...
evaluate good answers for a specific file search
(also called 'Stolichnaya effect' :bounce: )

By requesting the 10 or 20 best edk servers on a specific research, establish a 'reference' score for this specific file search.
(balanced to obtain an answer average for a users volume)

send the same request to a server.redo 4 or 5 times this operation with different file searches, on the same server.
then, compute the server's score by comparing the answer with the reference score value.
0% means that server do not send any result, for any request.

At this time, only files searching is evaluated, but soon, the sources search (for specific files) will be evaluated too.


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What is the fake server in gruk and jd2k list ?


by example, "jd2k" edonkey server do not send any result, for any request.
but it's not alone. (only 2 of 5 french servers are responding)

keeping these servers IP in the meta list is useless.
Except, perhaps, for the displayed advertising ...


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This post has been edited by Peerates: 11 February 2007 - 07:13 AM

get the peerates servers list http://edk.peerates.net
find eDonkey link on the web http://googler.peerates.net
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Posted 12 February 2007 - 12:00 AM

OK, thanks.

For jd2k server .... (and other french), yes , they are all dead ..... (like french moddeur) :ranting:

But still jd2k server (for example) isn't a RIAA/MPAA server ....
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Posted 17 July 2008 - 02:48 AM

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Certified servers list, guaranteed fake-free.
ed2k://|serverlist|http://peerates.net/peerates/certifiedservers.met|/

Their "no-fake" list has 53 servers.
ed2k://|serverlist|http://peerates.net/peerates/trueservers.met|/


How do you add links like that into e-mule? It says "invalid link"...
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Posted 17 July 2008 - 03:44 AM

View PostMuule, on Jul 17 2008, 12:48 PM, said:

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Certified servers list, guaranteed fake-free.
ed2k://|serverlist|http://peerates.net/peerates/certifiedservers.met|/

Their "no-fake" list has 53 servers.
ed2k://|serverlist|http://peerates.net/peerates/trueservers.met|/


How do you add links like that into e-mule? It says "invalid link"...


Hey,

You use the http protocol in the server window like:

http://peerates.net/...trueservers.met

OR

by adding it to the webservices.dat as an entry like:

Peerates server.met, ed2k://|serverlist|http://peerates.net/peerates/trueservers.met|/


Take a look here at the Quick Help & guides:

http://forum.emule-p...hp?showforum=76

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 04:58 AM

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Posted 18 July 2008 - 11:37 AM

hi

There's only one peerates list now, whose URL is http://peerates.net/servers.php

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Posted 18 July 2008 - 04:26 PM

View Postjestheonlyone, on Jul 18 2008, 09:37 PM, said:

hi

There's only one peerates list now, whose URL is http://peerates.net/servers.php


hey,

Yes that's true, officially. ;)

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Posted 19 July 2008 - 08:39 PM

View Postmoloko+, on Jul 18 2008, 11:26 AM, said:

View Postjestheonlyone, on Jul 18 2008, 09:37 PM, said:

hi

There's only one peerates list now, whose URL is http://peerates.net/servers.php


hey,

Yes that's true, officially. ;)

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service mainly because everything is based on new stuff.
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Posted 22 July 2008 - 10:06 PM

I opened a new thread and was told to use an existing one, i hope im using a right thread that is related to my subject :)

is everything ok with emule?
im using the 2 following links
http://www.peerates.net/servers.php
http://www.gruk.org/server.met.gz
and followed the instructions i got here in this forum
and here is how my servers list looks like - where have all the servers gone?
i remember the times where servers had over 100m of files, now a bit above 18m?
http://www.yousendit...zTmE4NVh2Wmc9PQ
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Posted 22 July 2008 - 10:15 PM

eDS No1/2 are at tipping point (close to max capacity and going off/on line) so i've gone on KAD only for now to give servers a bit of breathing space :)

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Posted 22 July 2008 - 10:25 PM

View Postmurphys, on Jul 23 2008, 08:06 AM, said:



That link is broken ;)
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