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#1 User is offline   grablx 

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Post icon  Posted 15 September 2007 - 11:28 PM

I think eMule commited a critical error when it started to be developed, and it was to choose MFC. This make the software unusable to other platforms excepting Windows. Nowadays, there are consistent alternatives, in my opinion, QT4 the best (basically because its 100% multi-platform and is suitable for GPLed projects).

I know that it is a heavy load of work, but not impossible. I would be glad to collaborate for a long time in the port.

Does anybody think it would be necessary to offer eMule for Win/Mac/Linux at the same time and all Microsoft/Windows-only code from eMule?

Thanks for your responses ;)

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Posted 15 September 2007 - 11:46 PM

So much work.
The amule is the closest thing(Wxwidgets)

BTW, no .net in eMule
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Posted 16 September 2007 - 09:46 PM

The gui of amule is fine. I also would like to bring the advantages of e&a mule together. Emule as cross platform project would be better.

But I think it`s to late now. The developers of emule decided to use mfc and them could not come together with the amule team before. Sad but that`s it.
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Posted 18 September 2007 - 12:49 PM

Too bad the aMule guys won't port anything to QT. Or the eMule guys. And I bet neither wants to merge with iMule, either. Or the rs messenger. So, why are you trying to push that?
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Posted 18 September 2007 - 01:10 PM

Could you please stop plugging iMule. Because as far as I can see nobody really gives a toss.
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Posted 18 September 2007 - 02:43 PM

The apocalypsis is here, so we must all praise iMule. I see.

No wait I don't.
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Posted 18 September 2007 - 03:21 PM

You are not speaking English. Nor any other comprehensible language for that matter.

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Posted 26 September 2007 - 12:09 PM

I found it very interesting (not merging proyects, but porting eMule to QT). I don't think it's so difficult, I don't know about programming, but there are many proyects with more than one GUI, for example ettercap or avidemux, and for example VLC Player devs are porting it from wxwidgets to QT4 (check nightly builds).

And it would mean that we would have not only emule native in linux, but also most of mods.
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Posted 26 September 2007 - 06:31 PM

I think you lose time, interested and motivation after 5 years to play big games. Emule is up and running very well, it`s solid, development goes slower and intereste in "cool" new features things like porting to Qt and merging goes smaller. Neither e nor amule wants to merge.

At least be happy them don`t have their little private war, everyone is free to use anything, to fork anything, no kidding in forums with stupid rules or bans or whatever.

If someone want seriously create the next generation of filesharing client he need to to put a lot of time into it. You could either fork the existing projects and try to convince as much developers, such the mod developers or join some other "cool" project such as shareza or mldonkey and improve them or create a hole new project... But what it does at the end, it merges e/amule, it`s mods, imule, all mod`s features...Would it be really better, would people use it. I am not sure, I think it only results in more requests for faster downloading and support requests.
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Posted 26 September 2007 - 08:40 PM

I am yet to read why QT is a better tolkit than eMule's or aMule's one. It's all hype, imho.
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Posted 27 September 2007 - 09:03 PM

You actually sure you understand english?
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Posted 27 September 2007 - 09:54 PM

View PostAndu, on Sep 27 2007, 11:03 PM, said:

You actually sure you understand english?


Are this english? :shock:

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Posted 03 October 2007 - 12:13 PM

This thread is becoming surreal quite fast.
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Posted 03 October 2007 - 01:06 PM

@technician23
There is no real need for anonym P2P because the majority don't share really criminal stuff (C***porn or terror plans).

The fact that what the majority is sharing (Copyrighted content) is considered illegal (but not a crime) is a problem of the current laws and the solution is not some freaky F2F or what ever but to adapt the laws to what the Majority of people wants, namely safe and legal sharing of any kind of (not criminal) digital content, in other words the nullification of copyright for any kind of non commercial use/distribution.

You can not fight bad laws by technology, because than only more bad laws will follow, they will simply criminalize the exit nodes/proxys so that any participant of an anonym network will be a legal target even if he isn't sharing anything illegal!

You have to join the Pirate Party of your country / or create one if there isn't one already and enforce in the democratic way the laws the people wants/needs!

Here in AT the evolution of the law already goes in this direction!

The future is NOW!

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it implements an own novel anonymous file sharing network, providing anonymity and deniability to its users,
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It is written in C++ with Qt and is available for Windows, Linux and MacOS.
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Posted 03 October 2007 - 04:48 PM

Anonymous peer 2 peer sharing technology is not a good thing and shouldn`t be supported. It will be surely used for exchange of really illegal/prosecuted content, like CP, thus will bring infamy and authority attention over whole P2P movement. You cannot, also, effectively become anonymous in the *net. It`s all a matter of time, money and persistence.
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Posted 03 October 2007 - 09:17 PM

View PostHaos, on Oct 3 2007, 06:48 PM, said:

Anonymous peer 2 peer sharing technology is not a good thing and shouldn`t be supported. It will be surely used for exchange of really illegal/prosecuted content, like CP, thus will bring infamy and authority attention over whole P2P movement. You cannot, also, effectively become anonymous in the *net. It`s all a matter of time, money and persistence.


People shouldn't have invented motors because they're used in tanks?
Come on, we will see a lot more "secure p2p" in future (just take a look at what the pirate bay guys are working on) just because there is increasing demand.
And filesharing networks will always be used for exchanging such stuff, if anonymous or not.

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Posted 04 October 2007 - 02:25 AM

The internet is already anonymous, as long as ISPs protect user identity and website don't share user data.
Also strong anonymity doesn't mean secure. A Tor end note, for example, can capture private messages of Tor users that are not properly encrypted.
And secure, often means authenticated, or prove yourself who you are, not anonymous.

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Anonymous peer 2 peer sharing technology is not a good thing and shouldn`t be supported....
Yap, I won't go into a mall where everyone wears identical masks, unless I'm looking to rub a place. (Also if I need to buy some thing that I don't want people to know about, but the internet is already anonymous enough)

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And filesharing networks will always be used for exchanging such stuff, if anonymous or not.
That depends on what is not anonymous. If anyone who goes on to you page on a social network can see what you are sharing in emule. Would you still share as freely as now?
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Posted 12 October 2007 - 05:15 PM

then amule and imule should work together on a QT gui in one client with dual core. give it a start now!
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Posted 12 October 2007 - 07:00 PM

Kry has already promised that he will help me port aMule to 65xx assembly code with a BASIC 2.0 Windowing GUI. Just as soon as we get that completed, I'm sure he'll be right on it.

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Posted 12 October 2007 - 07:09 PM

i am not such a nerd, you mean amule on a mobile phone? does this will use QT? -> www.openmoko.org changed as well to QTopia mobile phone plattform. Motorola 65xxx assembly does not use QT I guess.
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