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Why Does 'establish Friend Slot' Sometimes Uncheck Itself?

#1 User is offline   JoeJ99 

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Posted 05 October 2006 - 06:16 PM

I like the fact that with this mod I can turn on 'Establish Friend Slot' for more than just one person. In fact I have done this for quite a few people, and in general it works. However occasionally I will notice a friend waiting in the queue for whom I am certain I had established a friend slot, but it's now turned off.

As a little test I checked "Establish Friend Slot" for every one of my friends, about 50 people. Two hours (and a restart) later 7 friends are no longer checked. I looked right after the restart and some were unchecked but that doesn't seem to be the whole problem, some became unchecked later. There doesn't seem to be a clear pattern among those who were unchecked: some are online, some aren't.

So is there something I don't know about this? Or is there some transitory state during which the friend slot unchecks itself? Any ideas?

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Posted 05 October 2006 - 08:03 PM

Afaik you can't give a friendslot to
- a lowID-client , except if they already have an upload-slot.
- a client with invalid identification. (certain clients sometimes have successful identification and sometimes not) :)

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Posted 06 October 2006 - 01:04 AM

View PostNissenice, on Oct 5 2006, 04:03 PM, said:

Afaik you can't give a friendslot to
- a lowID-client , except if they already have an upload-slot.
- a client with invalid identification. (certain clients sometimes have successful identification and sometimes not) :)

I just checked and none of my friends who dropped their friendslot currently connected have lowIDs and all have successful ID. And the number is up to 18 out of 50 now, six hours after my initial post. If a lowID or bad identification is causing this it's transitory. I'll turn on verbose logging and maybe it will provide a clue.
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Posted 06 October 2006 - 05:24 AM

Are you and your "auto-uncheckable" friends in the same LAN? :)
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Posted 06 October 2006 - 06:02 AM

This effect is in Morph (and StulleMule as well) as long as I'm using them. Of course I'm interested in a solution too.
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Posted 06 October 2006 - 06:15 AM

a friendslot get uncheckt whenever the ip-address of the friend change.
This is because we donīt know immediately if the client with the new IP is our real friend or a bad guy.
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Posted 06 October 2006 - 10:19 AM

Clear answer. Thx.

But what about userhash? It's memorized in the friendlist too. Why not use this?
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Posted 06 October 2006 - 04:26 PM

View Postfafner, on Oct 6 2006, 03:19 PM, said:

Clear answer. Thx.

But what about userhash? It's memorized in the friendlist too. Why not use this?

Well, eMule sees a client(s) with same userhash with different IPs and... look at Xman1's post :D

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Posted 06 October 2006 - 04:52 PM

Mmh, obviously the answer wasn't as clear (to me) as I thought. :huh:

Almost all clients change IP. Can I decide better than eMule if a friend (same hash) with new IP is 'the' friend I put in the friend list and not a thug? And if i may focus on '... we donīt know immediately...': when do we know and why not switch on again FS then? :confused: ;)
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Posted 06 October 2006 - 07:15 PM

well.. the lack of the code is the secure identification. When this was done successful we know the (new)client is the right one... in this case we could reasign the friendslot. But this would need some coding efforts and some restructure. If someone find a simple (but secure) solution let me know it :)
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Posted 06 October 2006 - 10:13 PM

View Postfafner, on Oct 6 2006, 06:52 PM, said:

Almost all clients change IP. Can I decide better than eMule if a friend (same hash) with new IP is 'the' friend I put in the friend list and not a thug?
Same hash doesn't necessarily mean same client.
Judge for yourself. Is this 'friend of mine' either:
- one 'stupid' client who repeatingly change his name, IP-address, software, download requests etc. OR
- several 'stupid' clients sharing one userhash, one with sucessful identification others either with invalid identification or banned for aggressive behaviour.


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And if i may focus on '... we donīt know immediately...': when do we know and why not switch on again FS then? :confused: ;)
IMO never.


View PostXman1, on Oct 6 2006, 09:15 PM, said:

If someone find a simple (but secure) solution let me know it :)
Sorry, I guess you can count me out, but if I do change my mind...

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Posted 07 October 2006 - 03:07 AM

Very unlikey that it would ever happen

i thought it auto unticked after uploading an full chunk (official tho)
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